. said: narcissists are not violent they use the levers of society and the social realm to destroy others. psychopaths, borderlines, who happen to also have narcissistic traits and rage, different story.
. said: It's like they're all led by the same playbook. You read about it but it's true. You catch them cheating? They SWEAR it wasn't them. They punch the wall, they try to strangle you, they were "scammed" etc. Oh you found out your husband is actually a f*got on the low? You're a BITCH a WHORE and always "starting stuff". They come home drunk accusing you of loving black men even though you've never been with one and don't like black men, it's actually THEM that likes black men/women/shemen. It's amazing the way their minds work and how deep in lies they have themselves. They're miserable under it all but it's crazy. I guess you learn not to say anything or to turn your eye cause they'll never change and never admit to anything. The truth hurts them too much anyway
. said: . said: narcissists are not violent they use the levers of society and the social realm to destroy others. psychopaths, borderlines, who happen to also have narcissistic traits and rage, different story. my brother. he's 42 lives with our mom. poor mom just puts up with his bullshit.
Duckford.nli said: Those with strong sociopathic tendencies are, indeed, predictable. Purely selfish, out of control, they try to "win" every situation, but more just get what they want every time. They always prefer the easy way, manipulation, and when it fails, they snap to aggression. It is simply a quick change of gears, that's all. They just do whatever they think will get their way. Narcissists are invariably sociopathic. To the extent that their tendencies make them nearly the same as a pure sociopath. You can't trust them, and can only deal with them knowing what they do.
. said: The most important thing to realize is that they will never stop and they will never get better. They will only get worse over time. Guaranteed. They may get better masks... they will certainly change if and when they have to. But then they will certainly change back. There's no normality to restore, normal never existed. There is no one home. Move on or suffer the consequences.
. said: No such thing as sociopathy in clinical psychology since about the 1970s. Psychopathy, BPD or NPD.
Duckford.nli said: I don't agree. Psychopaths are arguably difficult to reform. But everyone else can be fixed to a certain extent. The biggest problem is playing their game, or fighting on their terms, or fighting their way. You get dragged into it. You can't do that. It'll make you sick, and you can't win their fight. Instead, the best policy is the same for healthy people, which is being fair and assertive. When they try to fight, you refuse to fight. When they try to manipulate, you don't let them and you don't try to manipulate back. Stand firm and lead through example. The narcissist or sociopath will either leave YOU, or will hit the wall and learn something. Many people with sociopathic tendencies will reason that "everyone else is purely selfish as I" and reason this to defend their wrongs. To be fair, to stand ground and do what is right, is to break this mentality. The first step to help and reform is to stop the cycle of horseshit the SOCIOPATHIC PERSON TELLS THEMSELVES. If you get nasty and fight back, you feed into their delusion. If you manipulate and cheat them, you feed into their delusion. If you play their game, you feed into their delusion. Many times success can be achieved if you can break the lies THEY TELL THEMSELVES, which is far more dangerous than the lies he tells others, because the lies he tells others can be fixed, but the lies he tells himself keep him in that state. Don't cow to them, don't bow to them, but don't act the way they treat you to them either. Hard fairness, doing the right thing, can often break the cycle that keeps them in their mentality and place. If they avoid you because they can't "play" you, then at least you did the best you can. Many narcissists and those with sociopathic tendencies are not psychopaths or hardened sociopaths, but often times just people who are corrupted by soft living, social engineering, and bad influences. They can be fixed, with the right mentality.
:whitetrash: said: BAGGERS BAGGERS BAGGERS EVERYONE ELSE IS POOR WHITE TRASH EXCEPT ME AND SWEETPEA! \ :spanky: \ :whitetrash:
. said: Diagnosed NPD? Real narcissists can always find women to take care of them and usually more than one. The Youtube NPD rabbit hole is full of raging mentally-ill women that gleefully let such people walk all over them. Usually more than one.
