Topic: Hydrogen won’t save us. Here’s why.
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Good video.


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"fossil fuels" :facepalm:


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I like watching her but that is really clickbait.

She says hydrogen and gas are basicalyl comparaible when it comes to mass vs energy because of the tank weight for hydrogen. She ignores the newer tank tech that cuts the tank size because she wants to focus on the negative.

Then she says the real problem is how you make the hydrogen and how pure it is. Where she fails is she completely ignores fusion energy. When we get fusion, what are we going to make to store energy in a liquid form for planes? Not gasoline. Probably hydrogen. Mass wise it is the same as gasoline so you can fly the same places and such. And the output of green hydrogen is just water when you burn it. So, fusion will be used to generate hydrogen for planes. And for other things that are similar where you need a lot of energy for a long time.

And with fusion you can make green hydrogen. She also spent way too long on subjects, you don't need different colors of hydrgen, you can just say grey hydrogen. Video should have been about 3 minutes long but she wanted that long ad at the end and to get it monetized.


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I watched  seconds.  She looks FUCKING INSANE and sounds like a NAZI!  

FUCK OFF OP. :rolleyes:
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8 seconds.


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. said: "fossil fuels" :facepalm:

­Electric cars have the same problems as hydrogen cars, to produce them pollutes more than gas cars + where's the electricity coming from to charge them, fossil fuels.


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Smarter than you said:
­Electric cars have the same problems as hydrogen cars, to produce them pollutes more than gas cars + where's the electricity coming from to charge them, fossil fuels.

­right, US has its own oil.

For us in Europe though, electric is the solution.

I rather walk than make the ME richer than they already are.


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. said:
­right, US has its own oil.

For us in Europe though, electric is the solution.

I rather walk than make the ME richer than they already are.

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No you don't.   Walking sucks.


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Smarter than you said:
­Electric cars have the same problems as hydrogen cars, to produce them pollutes more than gas cars + where's the electricity coming from to charge them, fossil fuels.

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Hydrogen made sense a few years ago cost-wise.

Now, it is the equivalent of 4MPG gas in my area in terms of cost per mile. Hydrogen prices have more than doubled since a few months ago.


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Smarter than you said:
­Electric cars have the same problems as hydrogen cars, to produce them pollutes more than gas cars + where's the electricity coming from to charge them, fossil fuels.

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fusion energy solves that problem


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This video is out of date and she has a bunch of errors in it

First of alll, she focuses on Q>1. Anyone working in fusion knows you need Q>10 because you need to cover the total energy needed. We already have Q>1 and we need Q>10 on a sustained basis.

Also, she blows it when she says that heat needs to be converted into electricity. She is talking about some fusion reactors. The promising one from Helion (watch some videos on that) converts to electric directly from the magnetic field and not heat. She is talking standard tomahawk designs. This is another click bait "click below" with ads. It is sad because she used to do better physics videos and now she's just in it for the clicks. Also her view, as well as a number of other physicists view, on Many World is naive. It is really the only theory that makes sense. She says "well, you can't test it". It's like anything you can't test right now, you never can test. Fatalistic view and that is really silly when you are a physicist.


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She focuses in ITER and doesn't know shit about all the investments and different tech going on in the industry. Wish she has spent more time on the video. If you want to see current state of the art, watch videos/read up on just these two

Commonwealth Fusion
Helion

And there are about 100 more. Dismissing the tech because of ITER is fucking stupid. ITER isn't relevant any more at all.


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Smarter than you said:
­Electric cars have the same problems as hydrogen cars, to produce them pollutes more than gas cars + where's the electricity coming from to charge them, fossil fuels.

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https://www.motortrend.com/features/truth-about-electric-cars-ad-why-you-are-being-lied-to/

Multiple credible studies show that an EVs' break-even point on emissions (including the vehicle's production, transport to you and indirect smokestack emissions) is under two years.  In other words, after you've an electric SUV for 1.9 years, you are producing less pollution than an equivalent gas/diesel powered vehicles.


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https://www.motortrend.com/features/truth-about-electric-cars-ad-why-you-are-being-lied-to/

Multiple credible studies show that an EVs' break-even point on emissions (including the vehicle's production, transport to you and indirect smokestack emissions) is under two years.  In other words, after you've an electric SUV for 1.9 years, you are producing less pollution than an equivalent gas/diesel powered vehicles.

­Until you need a new battery.


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Here's Helion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bDXXWQxK38

Here's Commonwealth (basically/commonwealth is MIT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8uYNhevRtk

Commonwealth raised 250M in funding last year and just did a Series B for 1.8B.


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­Until you need a new battery.

­Most modern EV batteries will outlast the car itself.


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. said:
Smarter than you said:
­Electric cars have the same problems as hydrogen cars, to produce them pollutes more than gas cars + where's the electricity coming from to charge them, fossil fuels.

­right, US has its own oil.

For us in Europe though, electric is the solution.

I rather walk than make the ME richer than they already are.

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Chunk lithium, chink cobalt, chink electronics, Russian gas and oil.


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. said:
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­Until you need a new battery.

­Most modern EV batteries will outlast the car itself.
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. said:
Smarter than you said:
­Electric cars have the same problems as hydrogen cars, to produce them pollutes more than gas cars + where's the electricity coming from to charge them, fossil fuels.

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https://www.motortrend.com/features/truth-about-electric-cars-ad-why-you-are-being-lied-to/

Multiple credible studies show that an EVs' break-even point on emissions (including the vehicle's production, transport to you and indirect smokestack emissions) is under two years.  In other words, after you've an electric SUV for 1.9 years, you are producing less pollution than an equivalent gas/diesel powered vehicles.

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Who funded these “credible studies”?


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We will drive around, little driver cabs attached to giant lumbering hydrogen tanks that scoot us along, and a rack in front for your $20 dozen eggs


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This bitch is stupid.  


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Without prejudice said: I watched  seconds.  She looks FUCKING INSANE and sounds like a NAZI!  

FUCK OFF OP. :rolleyes:
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­Correct on both points!
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Japan is going Hydrogen. They are solving the problems meanwhile Anglo countries fall further behind.



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