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  The irony doesn't escape me...Hollywood glamorizes violence and some whack job blows away the worshipers
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I mean, he walks in during a shootout scene, blood and guts and death on the big screen...then opens fire on the starry-eyed automatons slurping up the violence.

There is something strangely poetic about the circumstances. As terrible as it sounds, we've become so jaded to violence. WE have become so violent. It begs the question: Chicken or the Egg?
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This.

The audience likes blood, violence, action, paramilitary clothing and massacres -- ok, then, how about one in real life?
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Violence is part of nature. So what if people like to watch fictional violence it doesn't justify actual slaughter.
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:potd:

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And the collective immaturity of the audience and their idiotic adulation of comic book superheros long beyond the appropriate age for this (14 at the very latest) is echoed and amplified in the idiotic shooter decking himself out as the Joker
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. said:Violence is part of nature. So what if people like to watch fictional violence it doesn't justify actual slaughter.



One could say that the decadence of the Romans began when they stopped being really violent themselves and became mere spectators in the grandstands of the Colloseum, depraved, debauched, soft, weak voyeurs without the guts to actually fight themselves. Vicious cowards...feral weaklings..
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. said:Violence is part of nature. So what if people like to watch fictional violence it doesn't justify actual slaughter.



To a lib it does.
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. said:I mean, he walks in during a shootout scene, blood and guts and death on the big screen...then opens fire on the starry-eyed automatons slurping up the violence.

There is something strangely poetic about the circumstances. As terrible as it sounds, we've become so jaded to violence. WE have become so violent. It begs the question: Chicken or the Egg?



The Jew came first.

To once again quote the greatest humanitarian of the 20th century:

"Was there any form of filth or profligacy, particularly in cultural life, without at least one Jew involved in it?

If you cut even cautiously into such an abscess, you found, like a maggot in a rotting body, often dazzled by the sudden light-a kike!

What had to be reckoned heavily against the Jews in my eyes was when I became acquainted with their activity in the press, art, literature, and the theater. All the unctuous reassurances helped little or nothing It sufficed to look at a billboard, to study the names of the men behind the horrible trash they advertised, to make you hard for a long time to come. This was pestilence, spiritual pestilence, worse than the Black Death of olden times, and the people was being infected with it! It goes without saying that the lower the intellectual level of one of these art manufacturers, the more unlimited his fertility will be, and the scoundrel ends up like a garbage separator, splashing his filth in the face of humanity. And bear in mind that there is no limit to their number; bear in mind that for one Goethe Nature easily can foist on the world ten thousand of these scribblers who poison men's souls like germ-carriers of the worse sort, on their fellow men.

It was terrible, but not to be overlooked, that precisely the Jew, in tremendous numbers, seemed chosen by Nature for this shameful calling.

Is this why the Jews are called the 'chosen people'?

I now began to examine carefully the names of all the creators of unclean products in public artistic life. The result was less and less favorable for my previous attitude toward the Jews. Regardless how my sentiment might resists my reason was forced to draw its conclusions.

The fact that nine tenths of all literary filth, artistic trash, and theatrical idiocy can be set to the account of a people, constituting hardly one hundredth of all the country's inhabitants, could simply not be tanked away; it was the plain truth."


Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler
Volume One - A Reckoning
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It's low testosterone, nihilist violence too. Nothing like 80s action hero movies.
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If the moviegoing rabble can see fake violence on the screen, they're less likely to commit violence in real life.
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. said:So what if people like to watch fictional violence it doesn't justify actual slaughter.



I never thought of it as justifying actual violence, but (as the first person on earth to make the observation about the irony of the nature of this particular movie), who should be shocked?

A society in which so many people consider these horrors to be "entertainment". What kind of people would make such a movie? What kind of people would enjoy being entertained by it?

What the hell? My life goes on. I haven't even watched or listened to a single news report about it. I wish this sort of culture would disappear from a lack of interest. But most folks love it.

So you get it.

And then you're shocked. Shocked and weepy.

:shrug:
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If you go to a midnight movie to see a man dressed in tights and a costume, who lives in a cave with another man, and whose closest companion is a male butler . . . . then you get what you deserve.
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Back in the past, they had some violence on the screen, but it wasn't gory, and even nogs weren't as remotely violent as they are today. Coincidence? THere were also vastly fewer gun restrictions back then too.
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better than 3D!!
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. said:If the moviegoing rabble can see fake violence on the screen, they're less likely to commit violence in real life.



OP here.

This statement is conjecture at best and flat out bullshit. Violence permeates nearly every aspect of our entertainment short of porn. This psycho who did this was projecting his violent fantasies, fed by our media, into real life. Happens every day. All he had to do was walk to the corner and purchase an arsenal meant for warfare and turn his fantasies into real life. Fantasies created by fantastically violent films LIKE THE DARK KNIGHT.
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. said:I never thought of it as justifying actual violence, but (as the first person on earth to make the observation about the irony of the nature of this particular movie), who should be shocked?

A society in which so many people consider these horrors to be "entertainment". What kind of people would make such a movie? What kind of people would enjoy being entertained by it?

What the hell? My life goes on. I haven't even watched or listened to a single news report about it. I wish this sort of culture would disappear from a lack of interest. But most folks love it.

So you get it.

And then you're shocked. Shocked and weepy.

:shrug:



Violence is part of human nature. It's part of animal nature. It's part of nature itself.

I don't see how violent storytelling encourages violence.

I think it is a pretty stupid argument.

Maybe what you hate is humanity as it is. You hate humanity which is inherently aggressive and violent. If you make that claim that I think you have a point.

If you think we end violent stories and violence in movies then we all end up being placid creatures. I think that is ridiculous.
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maximus said:



THAT sums up the state of the American soul.
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. said:It's low testosterone, nihilist violence too. Nothing like 80s action hero movies.



:potd:
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. said:Violence is part of human nature. It's part of animal nature. It's part of nature itself.

I don't see how violent storytelling encourages violence.

I think it is a pretty stupid argument.

Maybe what you hate is humanity as it is. You hate humanity which is inherently aggressive and violent. If you make that claim that I think you have a point.

If you think we end violent stories and violence in movies then we all end up being placid creatures. I think that is ridiculous.

I completely agree with this post. I also hate humanity as it is. No method to fix it that I can see, short of genetic manipulation.
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has it always been like this or is it just this day and age?
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. said:I never thought of it as justifying actual violence, but (as the first person on earth to make the observation about the irony of the nature of this particular movie), who should be shocked?

A society in which so many people consider these horrors to be "entertainment". What kind of people would make such a movie? What kind of people would enjoy being entertained by it?

What the hell? My life goes on. I haven't even watched or listened to a single news report about it. I wish this sort of culture would disappear from a lack of interest. But most folks love it.

So you get it.

And then you're shocked. Shocked and weepy.

:shrug:



Violence is part of human nature. It's part of animal nature. It's part of nature itself.
I don't see how violent storytelling encourages violence.
I think it is a pretty stupid argument.
Maybe what you hate is humanity as it is. You hate humanity which is inherently aggressive and violent. If you make that claim that I think you have a point.
If you think we end violent stories and violence in movies then we all end up being placid creatures. I think that is ridiculous.
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I'm not going to deal with all of the stupidity in your post. It would take too long, and you have nothing intelligent or interesting to say.

But, for instance, neither I nor anyone else said that violence would end and we'd all be placid creatures if you stopped violent stories and movies. Nobody thinks violence would go completely away.

I don't know if your stupidity is deliberate or unavoidable, but you are stupid.

And not a little.

If anyone has any logical disagreements, I'll address them.

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. said:has it always been like this or is it just this day and age?



Always been that way.

The dime novels of 120 years ago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dime_novel

Do you morons really believe we are something special?
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You create your reality with your thoughts. When thoughts and images are presented to you through media, eventually they show up in your reality.

Zombies
Wackjobs
Cell phones

ECT.

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. said:I completely agree with this post. I also hate humanity as it is. No method to fix it that I can see, short of genetic manipulation.



INGSOC can fix that.
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PissOnYou said:Always been that way.

The dime novels of 120 years ago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dime_novel

Do you morons really believe we are something special?



and also think of past wars esp the Civil War. People had nothing better to do back then?

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