Moron, what word in "nothing replaces oil" proved too difficult for you to grasp?
Most hydrogen sourced today comes from fossil sources, primarily natural gas. NG is a petroleum by-product. NG is also depleting. ALL fossil fuels are depleting. That's why they are FOSSIL fuels.
You could cover the ocean in solar cells that crack water into H2 and O2, but it will never approach the pure economy of petroleum. Ever.
Petroleum was like magic. You got about 25000 man-hours of labor-equivalent energy in every barrel. Today, you can get one of those barrels of massive amounts of energy for a lousy $100. But that's barely within the range of what the American economy can afford to run on. We simply waste too much energy to get things done. We're fat and wasteful, but the alternative is to have nothing like today's economy, which is to say, pretty much NO economy.
Posted 7/6/2012 5:18 am
People who know what they're talking about (which means NOT MW.nli), try to correct public "thinking" on hydrogen by calling it an energy CARRIER, not a fuel. The economies of hydrogen make it impossible to use as a fuel, since we don't actually EXPLOIT it. We don't mine it, or drill for it, or anything like that. Hydrogen must be PROCESSED into usable form, and that kills its economy.
Stupid logic. "I rather starve now and eat 50 years later".
It's only limited if you limit yourself. There is plenty of oil and natural gas to last us forever,or until another technology is refined and ready.
Stop thinking like that. There is plenty of natural gas right now to keep going for a long time, and whether you admit it or not, 'fossil fuels' keep on getting regenerated with time.
Looking at the price of that "Unlimited Resource" one might think otherwise. Don't know about you, but I'm tired of having my nuts squeezed by Big Oil.
Posted 7/6/2012 5:24 am
Nothing you say will overcome the truth of what's going to happen to the U.S. economy. You're going to run out of oil. Then natural gas, then coal. Then you'll have nothing. Even running out of oil will give you nothing, since unemployment will rise above 50%. Commerce in the USA in 2080 will drop to 10% of what it was in 2020. By 2100, it will be at 5%.
Oil made everything move. Nothing replaces oil. The outcome is obvious, but you can't admit it, since you can't admit your comfortable life is coming to an end. You can't admit your oil-fueled civilization is ending.
The effort to develop the use of biofuels for the military started with a task force set up by then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld in 2006, under President George W. Bush.
It's a pilot project that won't be deployed until 2020, and that's only if they get the costs down.
Posted 7/6/2012 5:27 am
Hydrogen isn't a fuel. Period. It can't save you, therefore, when you try to replace a F-U-E-L like petroleum.
You're scared. You know your civilization has no future, energy-wise, and that scares you. So you indulge in fantasies like "hydrogen". But it's still just a fantasy. Nothing CAN replace what oil did for us. Oil is the intersection of three critical factors, and all must be present in an alternative, BUT nothing matches those three factors. Most alternatives aren't even close.
*yawn* Oil could run out tomorrow and it would probably be a good thing in the long run. Doesn't scare me a bit, but you're projected your fear quite well.
Posted 7/6/2012 5:31 am
You're scared and you don't know what to do. After all, you can't accept the literal END of your energy-gulping civilization.
It's physics, guy. It's geology and chemistry. These facts aren't debatable since there's no debate. They're true. We're depleting oil, and nothing replaces oil, for being inexpensive, dense and easy fuel source. Take even ONE of those factors away, and you have a nearly UNUSABLE fuel source. If it's expensive, then you can't have tens of millions of commuters on it, neither can you run a just-in-time national supply system. If it's not an energy dense fuel, you may as well not even use it. Not enough "oomph". And if it's not easy to use, then the economy breaks down with it anyway.
The family automobile will be obsolete by the end of this century, since there will be no affordable fuels for it. That will kill your economy deader than your sanity.
I meant when oil was first discovered it was considered pricy to extract since the technology wasnt in place then to make it easily recovered. The same is true for alternative energy technologies today until they mature.
Posted 7/6/2012 5:33 am
You can't grow your own food. You're reliant on income from the overall economy. You're not prepared for the end of your economy. Stop lying.
