Posted 7/6/2012 5:13 am
And the scary thing is, if you really properly understand physics, one conclusion seems inescapable: Effect is EVERYWHERE yet cause is something of an illusion.
It's really fucking weird. You live this life thinking its a chain of events, but physics tells a different story. Your life is more like a trace function through an interacting cloud of outcomes.
My money is, when you die, you wake up in the same life where you didn't die. Hence, the longer you live, the more complete your trace function gets. Until it's exhausted (assuming it's a closed system that follows the laws of thermodynamics). And what's the point? Who the fuck knows. I'm just glad that truck that was supposed to T-bone me in 2001 missed me by inches. I'm pretty sure my mashed guts in another previous outcome made this reality possible.
The human mind is wired to see connections between cause and effect. The problem is that this same ability to come up with all these different technologies and tools works against him in regards to religion.
If I say, "Saint Anthony, please help me find my car keys." and then I go and look, when I find them clearly the saint intervened on my behalf.
If you pray for money, it shows that is what you want more than anything. You're more likely to go out and seek it. But then you give God the glory.
The most beautiful thing is that God gets all the credit and none of the blame. If it doesn't work, it was God's will or you were asking selfishly.
You'll never see a football player give a post game interview.
I played like shit today. I threw 5 interceptions. THANKS A WHOLE LOT, GOD YOU DICK!
Posted 7/6/2012 6:17 am
Of course it can be ruled out. They don't just hand-wave. They actually believe in a giant sky fairy. And the giant sky fairy lives in a "heaven". There's a giant sky fairy enemy, the giant sky demon who lives in a "hell". Angels and demons. And they fight over "souls".
WHERE THE FUCK IS ALL THIS FUCKING SHIT?!?!?!?!?
Stop covering for them, retard. They don't have SHIT. Everything they believe is a total social FABRICATION.
Straw man argument. Not sharing in the belief system of whackadoo sky fairy adherents is still miles apart from atheism.
I really couldn't care less whatever Christians believe in since they can't even keep it straight among themselves.
But I also think athiesm is an untestable position since it makes a definite claim about the absence of a guiding intelligence. What if we just have an incomplete understanding of relationships? By saying athiesm is the correct position, you also say the only correct understanding of existence is that has no authorship. But there's ZERO proof to support that conclusion, and it IS a conclusion.
The only scientifically sound position one can make is that there is no proof of a grander intelligence, or an author, but it's within the realm of possibility, and therefore to discount it is to make a definite conclusion about the nature of things absent of evidence. I find athiesm to be downright unscientific.
Blah blah blah. You know what you did there, chum? More like, what you DIDN'T do there, chum? Your hand-waving didn't produce any fucking EVIDENCE for a "guiding intelligence".
You have to produce EVIDENCE for anything you assert. Things that exist, PRODUCE EVIDENCE. So it really says something when you don't have any fucking evidence for something: It says it doesn't fucking exist.
Yet the agnostic isn't the one saying God exists, is he? He'd tell you there is no proof.
Yet declaring a definite lack of existence of an author or a guiding intelligence is a conclusion about existence that also requires evidence. It requires ruling out any possibility of a grander intelligence when we can't even concretely rule out precisely how the rules of existence still even fit together.
But you're so busy saying 'blah blah' and trying to intimidate me with your bombast to consider this.
You still don't get it. YOU have to prove something exists, not the other way around. Someone can say that there are planets made of lime jello on the other side of the universe and say "prove there isn't", then assert that they exist because there is no proof otherwise.
No, I'm afraid you don't get it. Let me mansplain it for you.
An agnostic doesn't have to prove the existence of God. He cares as much about God's existence as he cares about the Twilight series. Which is to say, fuck all.
An athiest on the other hand, has to prove that a God, could never, nor will ever, nor ever has existed. To do this requires a complete understanding of all physical laws that as of today are still incomplete.
Do you get it now or do I have to mansplain it for you again?
Uh, no. The entire idea of MAGIC (which a "guiding intelligence" is) is farcical and falls into the realm of an OUTRAGEOUS CLAIM. So evidence is required. Wait, you don't have any of that. So you're fucking WRONG.
The entire idea of an OMNIPRESENT being that somehow CAN'T BE FOUND ANYWHERE, is farcical and the work of the immature mind.