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  Are there any cases where a solid prenup was overturned in the US? Link?
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I'm not talking about UK.

I'm not talking about weak prenups, like how Steven Spielberg's prenup was written on a napkin, and was overturned.

I'm not talking about prenups that are given to the bride just days before the wedding.

I'm talking about solid prenups, done before the wedding invitations have gone out, both sides have lawyers, and the poorer party would get something.

Are there any cases where a solid prenup was overturned in the US? Link?
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Prenups are pretty much useless and over time lose their power. They are pointless.
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Don't worry. Your Star Wars action figures set is safe, as she's not likely to every want to marry you in the first place.
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Mr_Right said:Prenups are pretty much useless and over time lose their power. They are pointless.



Link?

A lot of f2ers make that claim, but I've never seen any evidence of a solid prenup being overturned in the US.
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Mr_Right said:Prenups are pretty much useless and over time lose their power. They are pointless.



Link?

A lot of f2ers make that claim, but I've never seen any evidence of a solid prenup being overturned in the US.



If it's with the full consent of both parties.
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Mr_Right said:Prenups are pretty much useless and over time lose their power. They are pointless.



Link?

A lot of f2ers make that claim, but I've never seen any evidence of a solid prenup being overturned in the US.



Exactly. It's their justification for never being able to have a real relationship.

Do never marry. Hoes before bros. Keep makin' dat green. Westside!
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Mr_Right said:Prenups are pretty much useless and over time lose their power. They are pointless.



Do. Never. Marry.

What is so hard for guys to understand about this?

Getting a prenup = playing Russian roulette with four chambers loaded instead of five.
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The judge in a divorce always has the power to break to prenup if it is not -- in his or her opinion reasonable.

Also, different states have different thresholds of reasonableness. But pretty much all states disfavor prenups which means judges have a lot of discretion to disregard them.
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. said:Do. Never. Marry.

What is so hard for guys to understand about this?

Getting a prenup = playing Russian roulette with four chambers loaded instead of five.



80% of prenups get overturned in the US?

Is that really your claim?

Yet, you can't even provide a single case of a solid prenup being overturned in the US? Not one?

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. said:The judge in a divorce always has the power to break to prenup if it is not -- in his or her opinion reasonable.



Yet, you can't even provide a single case of a solid prenup being overturned in the US? Not one?
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. said:Do. Never. Marry.

What is so hard for guys to understand about this?

Getting a prenup = playing Russian roulette with four chambers loaded instead of five.



80% of prenups get overturned in the US?

Is that really your claim?

Yet, you can't even provide a single case of a solid prenup being overturned in the US? Not one?



You can google it and find plenty of cases. You have to be careful when drafting one. If you keep too much away from the bride, its an automatic void. Secondly the longer you have been married, the less effective it is. Thirdly, what is the point of a prenup, if you are to stay married for 10 years or longer?
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Mr_Right said:You can google it and find plenty of cases.



I've googled the entire internet, and I couldn't find a single case of a solid prenup being overturned in the US. Not one.

If you have any examples, please share. If 80% of prenups are overturned, then surely you can provide at least one case.

Because all I see are prenups being upheld..

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"..Robert Cohen, the lawyer repping Blaine, also represented Ivana Trump when she tried to break her prenuptial agreement with Donald. Cohen lost big to Donald, and the prenup was upheld in its entirety.."

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2008-12-03/news/30092986_1_ivana-trump-prenuptial-agreement-blaine


Former Playmate must pay ex's legal fees after prenup is upheld

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705313234/Former-Playmate-must-pay-exs-legal-fees-after-prenup-is-upheld.html

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. said:Do. Never. Marry.

What is so hard for guys to understand about this?

Getting a prenup = playing Russian roulette with four chambers loaded instead of five.



80% of prenups get overturned in the US?

Is that really your claim?

Yet, you can't even provide a single case of a solid prenup being overturned in the US? Not one?



It's a metaphor. Marrying a :tfb: with no prenup is like taking a good chance of blowing your brains out, just to (you THINK) get laid a few times. Getting a prenup improves your odds, but you are still taking a good chance of blowing your brains out, just to (you THINK) get laid a few times.
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Tell you what, if you're determined to get married, go ahead. No one here is stopping you.
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. said:It's a metaphor. Marrying a :tfb: with no prenup is like taking a good chance of blowing your brains out, just to (you THINK) get laid a few times. Getting a prenup improves your odds, but you are still taking a good chance of blowing your brains out, just to (you THINK) get laid a few times.



A solid prenup seems to improve the odds DRAMATICALLY, since you prenup critics can't even find ONE single case where a solid prenup was overturned in the US.

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Child support is entirely separate so if you don't take that into account in the prenup and specify exactly what's going to happen your prenup will be effectively worth diddly shit when your child support payments are included.
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part time lawyer said:Child support is entirely separate so if you don't take that into account in the prenup and specify exactly what's going to happen your prenup will be effectively worth diddly shit when your child support payments are included.



Tell me lawyer, I am tempted of putting Esq. after my name when I send out letters.
Is that legal?
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. said:I'm not talking about UK.

I'm not talking about weak prenups, like how Steven Spielberg's prenup was written on a napkin, and was overturned.

I'm not talking about prenups that are given to the bride just days before the wedding.

I'm talking about solid prenups, done before the wedding invitations have gone out, both sides have lawyers, and the poorer party would get something.

Are there any cases where a solid prenup was overturned in the US? Link?



Are you asking for a friend Mr. Cruise?
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Mr_Right said:Tell me lawyer, I am tempted of putting Esq. after my name when I send out letters.
Is that legal?



It's pretty much legal. It can depend on the content of the letter though and how you're representing yourself.
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part time lawyer said:Child support is entirely separate so if you don't take that into account in the prenup and specify exactly what's going to happen your prenup will be effectively worth diddly shit when your child support payments are included.



I'm not talking about child support.

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part time lawyer said:
Mr_Right said:Tell me lawyer, I am tempted of putting Esq. after my name when I send out letters.
Is that legal?



It's pretty much legal. It can depend on the content of the letter though and how you're representing yourself.



Not representing as an attorney. In fact, I tell them I am not licensed to practice law in this state, and I let them come to their own conclusions.
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:crickets:
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. said:A solid prenup seems to improve the odds DRAMATICALLY, since you prenup critics can't even find ONE single case where a solid prenup was overturned in the US.



The problem is you never know if your prenup is "solid" until a judge decides it is.

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. said:The problem is you never know if your prenup is "solid" until a judge decides it is.



So show me a case where a judge overturned a prenup in the US that had the following criteria:

- Done before the wedding invitations were sent out.
- Both sides had lawyers.
- The poorer party would get something.

You prenup critics can't even find ONE case? Not even one?

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