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Yeah no one runs Linux. Microsoft hasn't open sourced anything. Google, FB and companies like those don't have any open source presence or use open source code.

Shut the fuck up.

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Dumbest thing I've read in quite a while. The number of great programmers who bitch about every single thing in the world is so numerous that you have literally tripped over them on your way to empty the garbage for your betters.

Yer a dumby!
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You know what though?

Sticking your dick in the grinder by picking some obscure Linux solution will get your ass canned tout de suite. The minute anything goes wrong you own the FAIL. Even if it works better 99% of the time.

There's a reason why the saying back in the day "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" still holds.

How else do you think Larry Ellison is buying Hawaiian islands?

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Yer a dumby!
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I just realized, school just let out.

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I just realized, school just let out.

I'm pretty sure the people who have posted nothing but ignorance and shouted "Arse is here!" never were in school.

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REMINDER: WHINING ABOUT JOB DIFFICULTIES IS A SURE SIGN OF INTELLIGENCE.

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You don't know many programmers then. It is very true most anyone from anywhere can learn to program but the vast majority of professional programmers are for better or worse from the ranks of people who learned to be code monkeys the old fashioned way.

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You guys need to start working with the cloud. Everything will be the cloud. Apps will be seamless because of always on Internet access with no lags or downtime higher throughput and enhanced operating synergies.

We here at KNOA software are the experts in cloud computing. Now we invent cloud squared which is too complicated for you to even understand. Cloud computing is not a game to be played by children like you.

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simply wrong. there is a sure fire way to skilling up.

1st, you find *the* book for the language. There is always one. It does not change except for edition. read that book and learn it well.

2nd, you hit the web and work tutorials and pick up jargon and trends.

3rd, you write 3 or 4 things you already know how to write in the languages you've been using.

assuming you are not completely socially inept using this methodology will let you walk into 99% of the jobs out there.

I can vouch for this. I learned to program by reading free online tutorials. I only buy books that are universally considered to be the definitive text on a subject.

People ask me why I'm "reinventing the wheel" when I write something for which several solutions already exist. I tell them it's because I want to learn how they did it.

The code I was working on when I was unemployed helped me get my current job.

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Not in Silicon Valley. Not the guys actually developing the applications you use every day.

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simply wrong. there is a sure fire way to skilling up.

1st, you find *the* book for the language. There is always one. It does not change except for edition. read that book and learn it well.

2nd, you hit the web and work tutorials and pick up jargon and trends.

3rd, you write 3 or 4 things you already know how to write in the languages you've been using.

assuming you are not completely socially inept using this methodology will let you walk into 99% of the jobs out there.

I can vouch for this. I learned to program by reading free online tutorials. I only buy books that are universally considered to be the definitive text on a subject.

People ask me why I'm "reinventing the wheel" when I write something for which several solutions already exist. I tell them it's because I want to learn how they did it.

The code I was working on when I was unemployed helped me get my current job.

This. Reading a thousand books on the wheel will never replace making one yourself.

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So many excuses for failure in this thread. Shut the fuck up, failures.

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Try working for government or the military. You get amazingly proficient at things NOBODY else uses.

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Funny that mastering a ubiquitous yet simple CMS like wordpress or drupal can net you unlimited work opportunities,..yet working in some super advanced, convoluted, proprietary environment for years you can wind up in a dead end.

I made sure to know every web CMS out there, means you can basically write your ticket on all the work out there.

I am learning Wordpress just for that reason.

Much as the idea fills me with disgust.

WE'RE A PHP SHOP!
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I WROTE A C++ COMPILER IN HASKELL.
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GET LOST, LOOSER
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If you're a rock star in big tech you move up the old fashioned way. If you're just a guy who's not going to make it into the executive ranks then keeping your technical skills sharp will make you far more employable than people who've gone the mgmt. route.

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I am the O/P on this thread.

Yes, you are correct. The problem is working same old, same old, is a skill destroyer.

Examples: Places that still use Perl 4 style code, or Python 1.5.2, or, god help us all, there are still DOS shops around.

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I am the O/P on this thread.

Yes, you are correct. The problem is working same old, same old, is a skill destroyer.

Examples: Places that still use Perl 4 style code, or Python 1.5.2, or, god help us all, there are still DOS shops around.

Agreed. So what's the next thing you're going to work on learning on your own?

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Funny that mastering a ubiquitous yet simple CMS like wordpress or drupal can net you unlimited work opportunities,..yet working in some super advanced, convoluted, proprietary environment for years you can wind up in a dead end.

I made sure to know every web CMS out there, means you can basically write your ticket on all the work out there.

Work opportunities in software companies, or in companies?

Everyone, meet Web Guy!
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Web Frameworks. As others have said, this lowest common deonominator stuff helps to ensure continued employment.