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  I don't understand the "Schrodinger's Cat" paradox. If the cat is alive, it's alive. If it's dead, it's dead.
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. said:Wow, flashbacks of 3rd year philosophy classes and how much of a tedious jerkoff between verbose aspies that was.

Nice to remember why I don't read philosophy any more.



I know, right?

:lol:

One of the aspies here (the most insane one) got thrown out of Mexico for not having a Visa, after some lady she was doing rudimentary website work for turned her in for making threats towards her.
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Again, no interpretation eliminates quantum indeterminacy. It can only present a story of the underlying mechanics. The weirdness cannot be eliminated.

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I don't know what's so weird about flux. Flux produces energy, which is the business of physics, but it is never in a vacuum.
Experiments in contextual vacuums will always yield nonsense.

I think the interconnectedness and reciprocity of quantum is more interesting and valuable.

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One of the aspies here (the most insane one) got thrown out of Mexico for not having a Visa, after some lady she was doing rudimentary website work for turned her in for making threats towards her.

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More insane bs from the Arse homo with no life or brains.

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This thread is stupid.

If the cat is dead, it will decompose and give off the unmistakable dead cat odor.

So, if the cat is neither dead nor alive, it is not dead, and it won't give off that odor. This means you can test Schrodinger's hypothesis by trapping a cat in a box for a few weeks. If it gives off an odor, Schrodinger's paradox was straight-out WRONG!
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. said:This thread is stupid.

If the cat is dead, it will decompose and give off the unmistakable dead cat odor.

So, if the cat is neither dead nor alive, it is not dead, and it won't give off that odor. This means you can test Schrodinger's hypothesis by trapping a cat in a box for a few weeks. If it gives off an odor, Schrodinger's paradox was straight-out WRONG!

HURRPY DERP!!
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mr the horse said:In the sense that it gives the right answers, sure. But taking it to be literally true is absurd.

When it comes to physics, phrases like "literally true" are too weak to describe reality.
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. said:This thread is stupid.

If the cat is dead, it will decompose and give off the unmistakable dead cat odor.

So, if the cat is neither dead nor alive, it is not dead, and it won't give off that odor. This means you can test Schrodinger's hypothesis by trapping a cat in a box for a few weeks. If it gives off an odor, Schrodinger's paradox was straight-out WRONG!




THIS FUCKER IS ON TO US PUP
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I never got the double slit experiment. It just proves that wave/particle is an artificial construct.
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. said:I never got the double slit experiment. It just proves that wave/particle is an artificial construct.



We live in a computer simulation in which the digital locations of particles are calculated using the analog curves of mathematical functions. This understanding reconciles the two paradoxical aspects.
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Isn't dark matter a quantum phenon? I wonder if our scientists, by observing dark matter, are hastening the heat death of the universe?
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. said:I never got the double slit experiment. It just proves that wave/particle is an artificial construct.



We live in a computer simulation in which the digital locations of particles are calculated using the analog curves of mathematical functions. This understanding reconciles the two paradoxical aspects.



You might have something there. The universe is a simulation, in our minds, tho. Our minds are trying to make discrete, digital like, interpretations of the underlying mathematical equations.
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. said:I never got the double slit experiment. It just proves that wave/particle is an artificial construct.

Correct. The electron is an ele ctron. It is not a point mass ("particle") and it is not a spread out mass("wave"). It is an object that interacts in a certain way predicted by the QM equation, is all.
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. said:yet more wankery passing itself off as intellectualism. is there no end to male stupidity



Hi, Val!

:wave:
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Asok said:
. said:I never got the double slit experiment. It just proves that wave/particle is an artificial construct.

Correct. The electron is an ele ctron. It is not a point mass ("particle") and it is not a spread out mass("wave"). It is an object that interacts in a certain way predicted by the QM equation, is all.


It doesn't matter what you call it. The paradox is that this "object" appears not to have determinant properties until there is an attempt to "measure" those properties.
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As this thread proves, Schrodinger's Cat is of limited use trying to impart quantum theory to the great unwashed. Far easier just to explain the double slit experiment.
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Schrodinger is an ass.

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. said:As this thread proves, Schrodinger's Cat is of limited use trying to impart quantum theory to the great unwashed. Far easier just to explain the double slit experiment.


Yes, as a first pass.

The core mystery of quantum entanglement is best communicated by explaining Bell's Theorem, and going over the experiments demonstrating that the inequalities do indeed hold.
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Yet neither of the last two posters have even attempted to explain anything.
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. said:As this thread proves, Schrodinger's Cat is of limited use trying to impart quantum theory to the great unwashed. Far easier just to explain the double slit experiment.


Yes, as a first pass.

The core mystery of quantum entanglement is best communicated by explaining Bell's Theorem, and going over the experiments demonstrating that the inequalities do NOT indeed hold.


(fixed typo)
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. said:Yet neither of the last two posters have even attempted to explain anything.


Here you go:

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/bell-theorem/
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It seems that this disproves the existence of God, since if God was observing the universe all quantum states would have already collapsed.
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. said:Here you go:

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/bell-theorem/



No way dude, it's up to you to back yourself up in your own words like everyone else on the thread.
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. said:It doesn't matter what you call it. The paradox is that this "object" appears not to have determinant properties until there is an attempt to "measure" those properties.



But it does. We know that it acts like a particle with a single slit, and looks like a wave with a double slit.

If I'm thrown out of a window I will act like a fish if there's a swimming pool under me, and I will act like a water balloon if it's cement.
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Only if there's a girl watching.

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