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  The Pro-illegal immigration line "They are just trying to come here to make a better life for themselves" is a crock of shit.
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. said:How does a person struggling to find something to eat "fix" an ossified and corrupt government/multinational corp alliance?



SHUT UP FAG!
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death2me said:
. said:I am the son of legal immigrants who also came here to make a better life for themselves. They followed the rules, paid taxes, signed up for the service, and made learning english priority#1. I don't think they ever dreamed of coming here to leech off the system, don't even know if the system was set up for that at the time anyways.



Oh bullshit. The rules were so much easier when your family came.

Then: Nearly any white person who showed up was admitted.

Now: No way in unless you're an astrophysicist with a job offer, and even then it's tricky and expensive.

It's basically impossible today for most people on Earth to immigrate to the US legally.

And since they don't have legal status, it's difficult for them to pay taxes and join the service.



You are one of those fags who thinks they can make everything in life "fair". Well you can't. Life is not fair.
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. said:You are one of those fags who thinks they can make everything in life "fair". Well you can't. Life is not fair.



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LMFuckingAO!
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. said:Fun fact. Tons of generations of Mexicans who came here legally and assimilated fucking hate wetbacks.

Not all but a surprising number.



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. said:You are one of those fags who thinks they can make everything in life "fair". Well you can't. Life is not fair.



I know that life's not fair. (In fact the Australian drive to make everything fair drove me nuts.)

I'm just confronting these assholes who say they were legal like it's some sort of accomplishment. :boring:

The rules were easier then so it's no fucking comparison.

They say the Mexicans ought to just wait their turn and come legally but there IS NO WAY for them to do that.

The "we were legal" tards probably wouldn't qualify for a visa themselves under today's rules.
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There is an intelligent argument for all this.

The bottom line is that immigration of unskilled labor (whether it is legal or illegal) simply can't be sustained any more.

The unskilled come in and cannot support themselves so they become dependent on the system to take care of them. Once upon a time, that was Ok because the unskilled eventually became somewhat skilled and then got off the system. Not so any more, the unskilled become permanent burdens on the system, which is already going into the negative.

Immigration of skilled labor is the only thing that should be allowed, and it should only be allowed if skilled native workers cannot be found.
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. said:Immigration of skilled labor is the only thing that should be allowed, and it should only be allowed if skilled native workers cannot be found.



That's basically the current system.
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death2me said:
. said:Immigration of skilled labor is the only thing that should be allowed, and it should only be allowed if skilled native workers cannot be found.



That's basically the current system.
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. said:There is an intelligent argument for all this.

The bottom line is that immigration of unskilled labor (whether it is legal or illegal) simply can't be sustained any more.

The unskilled come in and cannot support themselves so they become dependent on the system to take care of them. Once upon a time, that was Ok because the unskilled eventually became somewhat skilled and then got off the system. Not so any more, the unskilled become permanent burdens on the system, which is already going into the negative.

Immigration of skilled labor is the only thing that should be allowed, and it should only be allowed if skilled native workers cannot be found.



The difference is that since Johnson's Great Society the US has had a pretty comprehensive welfare state.

A fun fact that most people don't know is that 60% of European immigrants to the US LEFT! Because they couldn't make a living.

So it was possible to have open borders because only those that could make a living for themselves would stay.

Nowadays, hordes come to Western countries precisely BECAUSE they are unproductive and western welfare states are the best way for them to raise their quality of life.

You can have EITHER open borders OR a welfare state. Not both at the same time.

My personal inclination is for countries with a lot of space such as the US and Australia to have minimal welfare states while small over crowded countries such as the UK and other Western European countries should have closed borders.
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Shiny New Kid said:The difference is that since Johnson's Great Society the US has had a pretty comprehensive welfare state.

A fun fact that most people don't know is that 60% of European immigrants to the US LEFT! Because they couldn't make a living.

So it was possible to have open borders because only those that could make a living for themselves would stay.

Nowadays, hordes come to Western countries precisely BECAUSE they are unproductive and western welfare states are the best way for them to raise their quality of life.

You can have EITHER open borders OR a welfare state. Not both at the same time.

My personal inclination is for countries with a lot of space such as the US and Australia to have minimal welfare states while small over crowded countries such as the UK and other Western European countries should have closed borders.



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This is fucking me right in the ass!

Why not just make immigrants ineligible for the benefits of the welfare state until they have paid enough taxes into the system?

I had a stamp in my passport that said "no recourse to public funds" and I was fine with it. I didn't want public funds. I just want to be able to live in a decent country like Britain.

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