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  OK, what the fuck is "Freemasonry", exactly?
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. said:Oh, that's great. I am a human being and therefore a member of society, therefore I cannot judge Freemasonry's corruption because society is corrupt.

How very convenient for Freemasonry. :rolleyes:



Pearls before Swine, apparently.
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q said:It is not permitted to discuss religion or politics within Masonry, so that would be a gross violation.



Is that why you put on little plays about Solomon's temple, Moloch, etc.? Just because you guys don't talk about Pat Robertson, that doesn't mean you don't talk about religion.

I would have to admit that it isn't as though you're watching a televangelist. There is something different about it, somehow. Perhaps the fact that multiple and various religions are referenced is what makes it different from your typical church sermon or televangelist. It would be interesting to know the rules for and manners in which religion can be referenced, but it's nonetheless referenced profusely all the same.
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. said:Is that why you put on little plays about Solomon's temple, Moloch, etc.? Just because you guys don't talk about Pat Robertson, that doesn't mean you don't talk about religion.

I would have to admit that it isn't as though you're watching a televangelist. There is something different about it, somehow. Perhaps the fact that multiple and various religions are referenced is what makes it different from your typical church sermon or televangelist. It would be interesting to know the rules for and manners in which religion can be referenced, but it's nonetheless referenced profusely all the same.



There are no plays put on in the York Rite. Perhaps the Scottish, or Prince Hall, but, not York Rite. Or perhaps your information is gravely mistaken.
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. said:It's basically Mormonism without the "Jesus in North America" story.

You mean it's not a Jewish scheme?!? Everything else mentioned on this board is. Why an exception for this?
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q said:I have read more ancient literature than you will ever even see. And since when is Wiki a reliable source?

M-L-K can possibly be transcribed to Melech, the Arabian word for king, but, not Malkanu, the Hebrew word.

Carthage was founded by Dido according to Virgil, not according to the Carthaginians. That was a creation of the AEnid, not of historical fact.

So try and read some actual firsthand sources, and get back to me.



:lol: So why are the rites secret if you have nothing sinister to hide?

Why are there rites at all? Or degrees?

Please try not to quote the bible, dickbrain. Especially when declaiming you're not religious. :lol:



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q said:I have read more ancient literature than you will ever even see. And since when is Wiki a reliable source?

M-L-K can possibly be transcribed to Melech, the Arabian word for king, but, not Malkanu, the Hebrew word.

Carthage was founded by Dido according to Virgil, not according to the Carthaginians. That was a creation of the AEnid, not of historical fact.

So try and read some actual firsthand sources, and get back to me.



And studying that got you exactly where?

On a message board where anyone can post, waiting for Ferret or some other board "enemy" to show up.

Poor. Check.
Fat. Check.
Ignorant. Check.
Asshole. Check.

Unless you can shoot lightening from your dick, I think you failed.
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The bible is a first hand source. It was the first and last book.

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AGAIN. WERE YOU RECRUITED VIA THE MILITARY? THE ARMED FORCES HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN FREEMASON FODDER.
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q said:There are no plays put on in the York Rite. Perhaps the Scottish, or Prince Hall, but, not York Rite. Or perhaps your information is gravely mistaken.



Does it frustrate you that you'll never ascend to the order of the Knights Templar?
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. said: :lol: So why are the rites secret if you have nothing sinister to hide?

Why are there rites at all? Or degrees?

Please try not to quote the bible, dickbrain. Especially when declaiming you're not religious. :lol:



I just quoted Virgil's AEnid, not the bible, dickbrain. Reading comprehension, try it.

Why are there rites and degrees? You answer me that question: Why are there Bosses and Employees? Why do some people get a GED, others get a Masters, and others get a PHD?
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. said:Does it frustrate you that you'll never ascend to the order of the Knights Templar?



It would, if I wasn't already there.
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. said:And studying that got you exactly where?

On a message board where anyone can post, waiting for Ferret or some other board "enemy" to show up.

Poor. Check.
Fat. Check.
Ignorant. Check.
Asshole. Check.

Unless you can shoot lightening from your dick, I think you failed.



Hmmm, I'm sitting here on one acre worth of property that I own, debt free, I probably have a better BMI than 80% of the people on this board, on the one hand you are saying I have studied, and yet I'm ignorant (a mutually contradictory statement)

Maybe you're the asshole, and you're just too poor and stupid to see it.
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. said:AGAIN. WERE YOU RECRUITED VIA THE MILITARY? THE ARMED FORCES HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN FREEMASON FODDER.



No. My family has a long tradition within the craft.
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. said:The bible is a first hand source. It was the first and last book.

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This is a good book demonstrating that the bible was written by at least four different people, and heavily redacted.

http://www.amazon.com/Wrote-Bible-Richard-Elliott-Friedman/dp/0060630353
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q said:I just quoted Virgil's AEnid, not the bible, dickbrain. Reading comprehension, try it.

Why are there rites and degrees? You answer me that question: Why are there Bosses and Employees? Why do some people get a GED, others get a Masters, and others get a PHD?



:lol: You tried to use Virgil to discredit me, fuckwit. Your own evidence was biblical.

Do you have some kind of brain damage? :lol:
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q said:No. My family has a long tradition within the craft.



Witch craft?
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q said:Pearls before Swine, apparently.



I've seen you use that defense numerous times before, q.

It's the quintessential example of Masonic arrogance and very representative of the fact that Masons are completely impervious to outside opinion.

I cannot judge Freemasonry because I am a human, and if I fail to respect that opinion, it is because of my ignorance. How absurd. :lol:

If you had stopped at "Well, we are like any organization. We have some corruption problems.", I could still take you seriuosly, but then you tried to turn it around on me. You cannot take criticism without attempting to smear the one giving the critique. Where is the fucking accountability?

WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE? YOU ARE PROBABLY A CHILD MOLESTOR! YES, WE HAVE SOME VERY MINOR FLAWS, BUT YOU PROBABLY RAPE CHILDREN!
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. said: :lol: You tried to use Virgil to discredit me, fuckwit. Your own evidence was biblical.

Do you have some kind of brain damage? :lol:



You brought up Dido fuckwit. Your only source for that is Virgils AEnid, and that is not a first hand account.

Until you learn to read ancient texts, just stew in your own stupidity.
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Always accusing others of what they are themselves. :shudder:
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. said:I've seen you use that defense numerous times before, q.

It's the quintessential example of Masonic arrogance and very representative of the fact that Masons are completely impervious to outside opinion.

I cannot judge Freemasonry because I am a human, and if I fail to respect that opinion, it is because of my ignorance. How absurd. :lol:

If you had stopped at "Well, we are like any organization. We have some corruption problems.", I could still take you seriuosly, but then you tried to turn it around on me. You cannot take criticism without attempting to smear the one giving the critique. Where is the fucking accountability?

WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE? YOU ARE PROBABLY A CHILD MOLESTOR! YES, WE HAVE SOME VERY MINOR FLAWS, BUT YOU PROBABLY RAPE CHILDREN!
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I have never, ever, used the expression pearls before swine on this board before. So, your evidence is suspect.

If you refuse to admit society has corruption, and do not see the point I am making, then, you should really take a look in the mirror.

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q said: I probably have a better BMI than 80% of the people on this board,
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. said:Does it frustrate you that you'll never ascend to the order of the Knights Templar?



It would, if I wasn't already there.



The Knights Templar is the final order joined in the York Rite. Unlike other Masonic bodies which only require a belief in a Supreme Being regardless of religion, membership in the Knights Templar is open only to Christian Masons who have completed their Royal Arch and in some jurisdictions their Cryptic Degrees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/York_Rite#Knights_Templar

YUO = Jewish = :pwned:
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q said:You brought up Dido fuckwit. Your only source for that is Virgils AEnid, and that is not a first hand account.

Until you learn to read ancient texts, just stew in your own stupidity.



Nope. She is a matter of Roman history.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dido_(Queen_of_Carthage)


If you knew anything about her, you'd know that her husband was a High Priest of Assyria, hence the Sumerian connection with Moloch..

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. said:Nope. She is a matter of Roman history.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dido_(Queen_of_Carthage)


If you knew anything about her, you'd know that her husband was a High Priest of Assyria, hence the Sumerian connection with Moloch..



And the Romans were so accurate when they described Gaul and Britons. Have you ever read AEnid? It is an attempt at a Greek Epic for the Romans. Have you ever read Caesar's stuff? Pure unabashed self indulgence.

The Romans were not great historians by any stretch of the imagination. So instead of taking an epic poem (which by the way, has the battle of Actium depicted on AEneas's shield) try real evidence.

What the Romans were, was great propogandists. So by insisting Carthage was founded by a woman, it justified the Punic wars by showing them as weak - and if you look at Dido's personality, she goes from strong warrior Queen to weak willed lustful maiden as soon as one Trojan shows up. So try and figure out the difference between legendary characters and historically documented ones.
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q said:I have never, ever, used the expression pearls before swine on this board before. So, your evidence is suspect.



You used it on a previous board. Perhaps WFT. Unlike the stalkers which you call friends, I don't save threads, so I can't prove it, but you've definitely done it before.

It's another great example of a Mason using a religious reference, though. :lol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearls_Before_Swine

q said:If you refuse to admit society has corruption, and do not see the point I am making, then, you should really take a look in the mirror.



Link to where I denied that there is corruption in other organizations? I have already stated that corruption is a common problem when I stated "If you had stopped at 'Well, we are like any organization. We have some corruption problems.', I could still take you seriously."

No matter. The whole thing was absurd from the start, and it has now devolved into an attempt at deflection. Much easier to bicker about the pervasiveness of corruption than to admit that Masons say one thing and do another.

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