1.) It's not the City's policy and hasn't been for decades.
2.) Most councillors are from the suburbs, which benefit from single fare.
3.) Long trips are not actually worth any more money. What do I mean by this? Sure, one could ride from Morningside Heights to Long Branch on one fare, but the trip would take two and a half hours. Clearly not worthwhile if it's not extraordinarily cheap. If you double the fare then the trip is too expensive because the service is so crappy. Conversely people going one station on the subway get a nice, quick, convenient, reliable trip, which is worth a premium.
The Commission stopped the Upper/Lower Bay arrangement because they were using a slot signalling system, so that every train had to fit in its assigned slot. (e.g. Southbound at Museum had to be one from St. George, one from Bay, one from St. George, one from Bay, etc.) Two in a row from St. George was unacceptable and they would hold the service until the Bay train showed up.
Obviously that was insane because any little delay anywhere would grind the entire system to a halt. That's why they cancelled it after only six months.
If they had used a "first come, first served" arrangement then it would have been much more practical.
maybe you're suicidal because you're fucking stupid.
The Feds have had a couple billion lying around for the TTC to expand since 2008, the money is there, they just can't get city counsel to agree on an actual plan.
I'm calling for more efficiency by changing which hand is grabbing what in the taxpayer's wallet. I don't want to grab any more.
The subway does not need to connect to the airport and never will. Even if it did, most people wouldn't take it anyway because they don't live downtown.
The under construction "Blue 22" GO Transit train scheme plus the approved, but unfunded, Transit City Phase 2 Eglinton LRT extension to the airport are more than sufficient and cover a variety of destinations, plus serve a much broader area along the way.
The Sheppard subway should not be expanded because it wouldn't actually serve a lot of Sheppard Ave. It would only go to Kennedy before turning south. The LRT will head to Morningside. There will never be enough demand for a subway there. The current 190 bus which plies the subway's proposed route is not even amongst the top ten surface routes.
Plus nobody has ever come up with a funding plan for this subway. Never, not once. You've had a year to do it but failed. It's not gonna happen.
The existing Scarborough RT will be dismantled and replaced with the LRT technology that the TTC actually wanted in the first place when they built it in the 80s. (The province forced the bastard ICTS technology on the TTC as a showcase to sell it elsewhere, but it never took off.)
I agree that this funding has been around for a few years, but there is no commitment to any future projects or any stable source for capital or operating that the Commission can count on.
Senior governments need to say "OK, we're going to give you $250 million per year for the next twenty years for expansion." This piecemeal, flavour-of-the-day, approach that we've been attempting for the past forty years has gotten us nowhere.
1) Visitors like myself would take it, because I'm a cheapass, I hate dealing with people (taxi drivers), and also because I like mass transit rail with frequent service.
2) Lots of people live along the subway line. It would be convenient for those people.
This is the stupidest thing ever said on the boards. Does it hurt to think? Because your thoughts are painful.
The TTC has owned the land to build into the airport for over 40 years. The dispute is literally over 100 feet of track that goes into "mississauga" property.
EVERY OTHER MAJOR CITY WITH A SUBWAY has a connection to the airport. Do you know why? because you're opening your transit up for business. Anything else is stupidity.
No one goes downtown from the airport? Actually most people do go downtown from the airport. Trade shows, conventions, business, you name it - and generally they would prefer to take a train rather than a taxi.
I will leave you to comprehend your utter stupidity.
Maybe, but if I were going to build a heavy-rail subway line I would build the downtown relief line or even a line under Queen St. These would serve many more people.
A lot of the route to the airport would be through low density industrial and underneath freeways.
Plus we can't afford it. If we can't come up with the extra two billion (allegedly) needed to build a subway in northern Scarborough, then we can't come up with the money for this one either.
The future Blue 22 service (direct train to Union) could be run really well, with service every 15 minutes. They could even put a stop at Eglinton and Bloor for connections to the LRT and subway. Similar trains are in successful use at SYD, LHR, LGW, NEW, JFK, BWI and CDG but the fares tend to be high. (There's no guarantee that the city wouldn't ding you extra with a subway like New York does.)
The Eglinton LRT airport extension would also serve the airport well because it would be a one-seat ride across the entire city and would serve local neighbourhoods.
You are wrong. There is no such dispute because there are no plans to build a subway to the airport and never have been. It's not even part of the government's 2003 "MoveOntario 20/20" plan, which contained every scheme under the sun (but was later cancelled).
We're going to get a (non-subway) train to the airport just like SYD, LHR, LGW, STN, NEW, JFK, BWI, AMS and CDG. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Rail_Link You will take it (if going downtown) and you will like it.
The City owns the land for the Richview Expressway beside Eglinton, but we're not gonna build a subway there because there isn't enough demand and we can't afford it. We're gonna build LRT instead one day, if we can scrape up enough money.
Toronto is terrible because it's full of blowhard know-it-all gay Asperger tards who are thick as a board and probably ought to just kill themselves now.
<-- Stinz
