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  Reminder: Man will never get to Mars. That is all.
Throbbing Justice
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. said:there is nothing they could do that can't be done in
China or India for 1/10th the cost.



Can they manufacture Helium-3?
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Throbbing Justice said:
. said:there is nothing they could do that can't be done in
China or India for 1/10th the cost.



Can they manufacture Helium-3?



Is that like 7-up ?
q
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Throbbing Justice said:Can they manufacture Helium-3?



No, but, apparently its available for free on the Moons' surface.
Roscoe
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With America rapidly sinking to 3rd world shithole status, I doubt it will ever send men to Mars. China will collapse due to over population and political upheaval. Russia is the nation on Earth that could pull this off in the near future.
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You need a faster ship. Ideally, you'd need gravitational field in the ship. Barring that, biotech to prevent the bone loss and osteoporosis-like symptoms that emerge from prolonged time in space.
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magbas_theReal_deal1 said:We had a plan to send multiple manned missions to Mars by 1980

Nixon turned it down



Seriously? Link?

And why do you keep banning me from tinychats when we could have discussions like this.
magbas_theReal_deal1
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Roscoe said:With America rapidly sinking to 3rd world shithole status, I doubt it will ever send men to Mars. China will collapse due to over population and political upheaval. Russia is the nation on Earth that could pull this off in the near future.
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correct, we can't even put A HUMAN IN EARTH ORBIT NOW
StudioAudience
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q said:Notch it in stone, that mission will be a disaster. Too many things to go wrong.



I've been thinking about this a lot. I think it will actually work as long as nobody fucked up the software and the units of measurement.

the hardware will have been tested within an inch of its life. these days embedded sensors can be put in the smallest mechanical part, so they will know if anything is wrong way before touchdown.

(assuming someone actually did their job during the testing phase)

those little rovers worked for years, despite having an expected lifetime of only a few months.

nasa has the mechanical engineering down pat. I think only one nasa mars mission failed.
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The US sure as fuck won't. Too busy feeding and housing mud races.

Russia will. Watch.
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magbas_theReal_deal1 said:correct, we can't even put A HUMAN IN EARTH ORBIT NOW



:facepalm: Never heard of SpaceX? Or Boeing? Both have off the shelf technologies that are viable.
magbas_theReal_deal1
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q said: :facepalm: Never heard of SpaceX? Or Boeing? Both have off the shelf technologies that are viable.


Let me know when they can send astronaughts to the ISS.
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StudioAudience said:I've been thinking about this a lot. I think it will actually work as long as nobody fucked up the software and the units of measurement.

the hardware will have been tested within an inch of its life. these days embedded sensors can be put in the smallest mechanical part, so they will know if anything is wrong way before touchdown.

(assuming someone actually did their job during the testing phase)

those little rovers worked for years, despite having an expected lifetime of only a few months.

nasa has the mechanical engineering down pat. I think only one nasa mars mission failed.



I always wonder why NASA always announces they have power for like 6 months, and runs rovers for 5+ years. Either that is a sign of major technological imcompetence, or a sign we have something more advanced powering these things.
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magbas_theReal_deal1 said:Let me know when they can send astronaughts to the ISS.



SpaceX is already ready to do that - they are waiting for government approval.

Look up the Dragon capsule sometime.
magbas_theReal_deal1
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q said:SpaceX is already ready to do that - they are waiting for government approval.

Look up the Dragon capsule sometime.


yeah right
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Throbbing Justice said:Can they manufacture Helium-3?



It's just simple chemistry. Neutron activation of Lithium6, makes Tritium which decays to Helium3.
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magbas_theReal_deal1 said:yeah right



The hardware is sitting, ready to go, just waiting for government approval.

However, having a perceived gap in space serves the government better - because its hard to ask for extra dollars when you have a working solution sitting on the ground.
StudioAudience
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Isn't the biggest problem with a mars mission lifting back off of mars and getting home?

escape velocity takes a shitload of fuel, even on a smaller planet with lower gravity.

you'd have to either take a ton of fuel with you or make it there somehow.
StudioAudience
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q said:I always wonder why NASA always announces they have power for like 6 months, and runs rovers for 5+ years. Either that is a sign of major technological imcompetence, or a sign we have something more advanced powering these things.



they were solar powered. but they expected the cold to trash their batteries or something
magbas_theReal_deal1
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q said:The hardware is sitting, ready to go, just waiting for government approval.

However, having a perceived gap in space serves the government better - because its hard to ask for extra dollars when you have a working solution sitting on the ground.


Sure it is
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q said:I always wonder why NASA always announces they have power for like 6 months, and runs rovers for 5+ years. Either that is a sign of major technological imcompetence, or a sign we have something more advanced powering these things.



More likely it's a form of public relations liability coverage. It's likely to last longer than they say, and they limit the window of failure to something they can control.
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40 days :banana:

The United States has a number of missions currently exploring Mars, with a sample-return planned in the near future. The US does not have a launcher capable of sending humans to Mars, although the Orion spacecraft, currently under development by NASA, could ferry astronauts from the surface of Earth to join a Mars-bound expedition in Earth orbit and then back to Earth's surface once the expedition has returned from Mars. NASA has used the Haughton impact crater on Devon Island as a proving ground due to the crater's similarity with Martian geology.[45] According to New Scientist, an argon plasma-based VASIMR rocket could reduce the transit time to less than 40 days

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manned_mission_to_Mars#Preparedness
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StudioAudience said:they were solar powered. but they expected the cold to trash their batteries or something



ALL the rovers and space probes are expected to last like 6 months - even the ones they put in orbit around Earth.

I can't figure out how on earth the Kepler mission (or whatever the damned mission is that spots planets) ran out of "coolant" in 2010, and still is functional.

Its Space. Its absolute zero. how the fuck can you run out of coolant?
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StudioAudience said:40 days :banana:

The United States has a number of missions currently exploring Mars, with a sample-return planned in the near future. The US does not have a launcher capable of sending humans to Mars, although the Orion spacecraft, currently under development by NASA, could ferry astronauts from the surface of Earth to join a Mars-bound expedition in Earth orbit and then back to Earth's surface once the expedition has returned from Mars. NASA has used the Haughton impact crater on Devon Island as a proving ground due to the crater's similarity with Martian geology.[45] According to New Scientist, an argon plasma-based VASIMR rocket could reduce the transit time to less than 40 days

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manned_mission_to_Mars#Preparedness



Orion was scaled back. Significantly.

It would be nice to do the trip in 40 days - because then you don't have to rely on Earthdome types to provide food.
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q said:ALL the rovers and space probes are expected to last like 6 months - even the ones they put in orbit around Earth.

I can't figure out how on earth the Kepler mission (or whatever the damned mission is that spots planets) ran out of "coolant" in 2010, and still is functional.

Its Space. Its absolute zero. how the fuck can you run out of coolant?



in deep space, it is not quite absolute zero.

and anything in orbit that is illuminated by the sun is going to get very hot.
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StudioAudience said:in deep space, it is not quite absolute zero.

and anything in orbit that is illuminated by the sun is going to get very hot.



The probe is looking for IR signatures beyond the Keiper belt.

How the fuck do you need coolant for that?

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