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  CBS News' Lara Logan Assaulted During Egypt Protests
RealEuropeanElitist
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compassion said:
The reel superjerk said:
RealEuropeanElitist said:It IS true, Egypt has a huge cultural problem concerning sexual harassment and assault but that problem has more to do with the aftermath...

. Muslim countries are decades behind the us, canada, australia and much of europe when it comes to womens rights. If you think about it most of these these countries are non secular and set their laws directly from the koran. All religions except buddhism clearly state the superiority of man over woman. Imagine if we let the Catholic church have veto power over the congress, we could treate American women like chattle too.


What comes easy to women, comes with a lot more effort to men. But you, guys, are not beyond hope... :). Slowly but surely you are getting closer and closer to being gentlemen... Which is, kind of the goal....



You mean there is still hope for us? Seriously?!

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Natasha Smith's story is very similar to Lara Logan. I wonder if she ever visited this thread or is a regular poster. I thought maybe Natasha Smith is Compassion.
compassion
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. said:Natasha Smith's story is very similar to Lara Logan. I wonder if she ever visited this thread or is a regular poster. I thought maybe Natasha Smith is Compassion.


No
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPj87lhZ4os

Is this guy one of the posters here?
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Religion is bullshit.
RealEuropeanElitist
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compassion said:
. said:Natasha Smith's story is very similar to Lara Logan. I wonder if she ever visited this thread or is a regular poster. I thought maybe Natasha Smith is Compassion.


No




I verify it. I know Compassion is NOT Natasha Smith.
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compassion said:Well, SJ, i do not want to start a religious debate here, but since you wrote it here, and since I read it, i must make a clarification. You would be surprized, but in Judaism, actually, women are considered to be on a higher spiritual level than men. It does not mean that men are bad, however. The commandments that they have to keep are actually there to enable men to raise themselves higher UP TO the level of their respective female soulmates. So, you might argue that those are men who have more overall ability to "imporve the world by improving themselves." But at the start the women are higher, and they exist, basically, for men to feel more G-dliness, and to be more interested in attaining higher spiritual goals. What comes easy to women, comes with a lot more effort to men. But you, guys, are not beyond hope... :). Slowly but surely you are getting closer and closer to being gentlemen... Which is, kind of the goal....



The old testament is full misogyny and polygamy going right back to abraham and even adam. Most of the real sick shit that justifies rape and sexual enslavement comes from the Jewish stories of the old testament. The first female rabbi was not ordained until 1972 and orthodox temples still won't allow it. The Muslims actually claim spiritual reverence for woman as well. It's just bullshit to justify further disenfranchisement. All religions except Buddhism disenfranchise the female clergy as a rule of thumb. They are ancient backwaters of ignorance that have outlived their usefulness.
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. said:"Okay, it's about staying alive now. I have to just surrender to the sexual assault. What more can they do now? They're inside you everywhere."


The difference between Logan and the Smith attack, Lara had to surrender to the assault. It was longer and more brutal.
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http://www.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/2012/07/revolution-and-resistance-in-egypt-and-syria/
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. said:
. said:"Okay, it's about staying alive now. I have to just surrender to the sexual assault. What more can they do now? They're inside you everywhere."


The difference between Logan and the Smith attack, Lara had to surrender to the assault. It was longer and more brutal.

Another difference was Smith was finally checked out by a doctor and was let go, Lara was kept in the hospital for 4-days from her injuries from her merciless, brutal attack. Lara was assaulted with a more sustain sexual torment.
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Any video yet?
RealEuropeanElitist
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. said:
. said:
. said:"Okay, it's about staying alive now. I have to just surrender to the sexual assault. What more can they do now? They're inside you everywhere."


The difference between Logan and the Smith attack, Lara had to surrender to the assault. It was longer and more brutal.

Another difference was Smith was finally checked out by a doctor and was let go, Lara was kept in the hospital for 4-days from her injuries from her merciless, brutal attack. Lara was assaulted with a more sustain sexual torment.



Yes. Actually...the 4-days say MUCH. I mean, really, really, really much. Lara did not get ANY bones broken. She was not cut into a vital area (abdomen, chest, spine)
And still 4 days. That means she sustained many injuries in the more intimate areas and that corresponds with the theory that it went beyond "hands" only.
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. said:Another difference was Smith was finally checked out by a doctor and was let go, Lara was kept in the hospital for 4-days from her injuries from her merciless, brutal attack. Lara was assaulted with a more sustain sexual torment.



She was in the hospital for 4 days to test for STD, clean out and stitch up her insides, and make up a good story for the media.
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. said:Another difference was Smith was finally checked out by a doctor and was let go, Lara was kept in the hospital for 4-days from her injuries from her merciless, brutal attack. Lara was assaulted with a more sustain sexual torment.



She was in the hospital for 4 days to test for STD, clean out and stitch up her insides, and make up a good story for the media.



Very probably, yes. But she did not "make" up a good story for the media. The principal statement was just general: Sustained sexual Assault. Dangerous element in the Crowd. 200 Attackers.

Nothing of that is per se wrong. The interview as we all know was very heavily edited. Lara hinted that more happened. There was no making up anything.
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http://www.mediaite.com/columnists/a-troll-by-any-other-name-the-case-for-commenting-anonymously/

Now where have I seen this face before?
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http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/116459/lara_logan_assault_details_are

she's now:

3 times more likely to suffer from depression
6 times more likely to suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder
13 times more likely to abuse alcohol
26 times more likely to abuse drugs
4 times more likely to contemplate suicide

Pretty good predictions, especially with the PTSD. I wonder if Lara abuses drugs and alcohol to get over her assault?


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. said:http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/116459/lara_logan_assault_details_are

she's now:

3 times more likely to suffer from depression
6 times more likely to suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder
13 times more likely to abuse alcohol
26 times more likely to abuse drugs
4 times more likely to contemplate suicide

Pretty good predictions, especially with the PTSD. I wonder if Lara abuses drugs and alcohol to get over her assault?



It was clarified by her herself that she already suffers from CHRONIC PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder). This is a GIVEN.

There may also be with almost certainty phases of depression associated with the PTSD and the acknowledgement that she cannot work overseas anymore like she did before.

I do not think she seriously entertains suicide. She is a strong person and she is well embedded in a network of friends and colleagues. And she knows that would be what the bastards of attackers wanted all along. She wont give them the satisfaction!

Alcohol and drugs: That woman is a workaholic. Her drugs are her work and her young babies. And when she gets weak i hope one of her family members or friends step in and prevent it from happening again.

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. said:http://www.mediaite.com/columnists/a-troll-by-any-other-name-the-case-for-commenting-anonymously/

Now where have I seen this face before?



From the link you have given:

As I see it, posting anonymously is not the problem; in fact, it can be a beneficial way of allowing people to feel safe or comfortable enough to express themselves. The issue is implementing standards (something easier blogged about than done) on blogs themselves standards enforced not only by editors, but also shared by those within a commenting community. In the meantime, I have no qualms about anonymous commenting. Your opinion, in this small slice of online real estate, is you identity. You are that Bieber fan, you are your political party, you are your undying love of Phish. Its what you say with that identity, rather than the identity itself, that makes or break a comment thread.

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This is exactly what THIS board is about. Without moderators we engage in a debate or discussions surrounding all the elements of Logans assault and the aftermath. All of us are anonymous but that does not mean we have no standards! That does not mean we are all bastards! We can and should discipline ourselves when talking about this stuff!
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. said:Another difference was Smith was finally checked out by a doctor and was let go, Lara was kept in the hospital for 4-days from her injuries from her merciless, brutal attack. Lara was assaulted with a more sustain sexual torment.

Smith was lucky some people stepped in to help her unlike with Lara I think also that Lara's attacked happend when most of the good people had retreated to their homes so she would have had no help and with the current amount of attacks many have reported some men trying to encircle the women to keep them safe similar to smith's attack but its a numbers game for them now but with help where it was a numbers game with Lara but no help
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. said:I guarantee to you, Lara stirred the dicks and imagination of that mob of cowards. They might talk about how horrible it must have been, but there's no way the thought of what this gorgeous woman looks like naked, with her being yanked every which way and her legs pulled wide open, is not going to pop into their mind for a turn of raping her... and that thought, unfortunately, is gonna result raping her with hands or penises without consequence.

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. said:Religion is bullshit.


No. It is a way a human being relates to G-d. THere is a lot of wisdom in it. The problem is like all things that have human input it cannot maintain perfection.
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. said:
. said:I guarantee to you, Lara stirred the dicks and imagination of that mob of cowards. They might talk about how horrible it must have been, but there's no way the thought of what this gorgeous woman looks like naked, with her being yanked every which way and her legs pulled wide open, is not going to pop into their mind for a turn of raping her... and that thought, unfortunately, is gonna result raping her with hands or penises without consequence.




well...FANTASY is one thing. I mean we all have our fantasies. But the important bit is when it crosses into the realm of actual deed and consequences. I know you have your fantasies about Lara, i can read between the lines. But that does not mean you are necessarily evil or doing something wrong. But if you would put that into action - and i view your line "mob of cowards" as evidence that you personally would not - than that would be wrong and shitty. Actually fantasies do not activate a deed immediately. That is just a wrong assumption. Though i believe that Laras looks played a certain role I do think that the attack itself was aimed at different goals (look above to Masked Truths Theory)
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. said:http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/116459/lara_logan_assault_details_are

she's now:

3 times more likely to suffer from depression
6 times more likely to suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder
13 times more likely to abuse alcohol
26 times more likely to abuse drugs
4 times more likely to contemplate suicide

Pretty good predictions, especially with the PTSD. I wonder if Lara abuses drugs and alcohol to get over her assault?


While it is 100% understandible when people do these things in responce to the stress she endured, some amazing souls are able to transcend it... Look up Dr. Shazia Khalid, Muhtaran Mai, just to start... Then, many of us here might give you long lists of people whom they know personally that HAD BEEN AFFECTED by PTSD, but for whom substance abuse was not a particular block they stumbled over.

Incidentally, I doubt that Ms. Logan had developed a problem with substance abuse. But you never know, and, as far as I am concerned, my respect for her would have not dwindled an iota as a result of it.... Think of it as "unconditional respect." Some people have earned sooooo much of my respect that where they stumble does not matter... I kind of know that if they stumbled there.... i would have for sure...

That is MY opinion.
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CompassionBreak said:
. said:http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/116459/lara_logan_assault_details_are

she's now:

3 times more likely to suffer from depression
6 times more likely to suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder
13 times more likely to abuse alcohol
26 times more likely to abuse drugs
4 times more likely to contemplate suicide

Pretty good predictions, especially with the PTSD. I wonder if Lara abuses drugs and alcohol to get over her assault?


While it is 100% understandible when people do these things in responce to the stress she endured, some amazing souls are able to transcend it... Look up Dr. Shazia Khalid, Muhtaran Mai, just to start... Then, many of us here might give you long lists of people whom they know personally that HAD BEEN AFFECTED by PTSD, but for whom substance abuse was not a particular block they stumbled over.

Incidentally, I doubt that Ms. Logan had developed a problem with substance abuse. But you never know, and, as far as I am concerned, my respect for her would have not dwindled an iota as a result of it.... Think of it as "unconditional respect." Some people have earned sooooo much of my respect that where they stumble does not matter... I kind of know that if they stumbled there.... i would have for sure...

That is MY opinion.



RIGHT....i just hope everything is okay in that regard and that she did not stumble. But i agree to the general statement here.
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Ok, SJ, you knew I would respond to this one, if I saw it, did you not? :) Well, I do think that given your profession (didn't you post somewhere here that you are a history teacher?), and your high professional standards, which I really think you believe in -- it is important that I educate you a little bit on the topic. Feel free to ask challenging questions: if the worst comes to worst, and I do not know the answer, I will just say so. If I forget to give you a sourse for my claim, just remind me, please. Deal? Ok. So, lets start....

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