So - in your logic women should walk around wearing a Burka from head to toe? Because you did not even specify a country or a region!
You wanna look at beautiful women but on the other side you blame them when they show too much. That is a contradiction.
Concerning the region/country argument: Back then on the day Mubarak got ousted there were many Egyptian girls and women who were dressed in a western fashion.
Posted 6/30/2012 3:32 pm
so true same with Caroline suez and the many others who have come forward of late as none of them ever mention cell phones and any type of filming which leads to either they were too busy with their struggle to live or they did not see any and seeing how they described their events down to what they were wearing and where they were I would say they did not see any filming unlike what happened to Lara which adds to the planned attack and humiliation by the government.
Posted 6/30/2012 4:32 pm
Lara only said she saw flashes not people filming.The flashes were from cameras or cellphones probably people holding them above their heads so possibly photographing just a sea of bodies in a scrum!
Posted 6/30/2012 4:41 pm
The only difference between Lara and Smith assault that is noticeable, is Lara's surrender. After her fighting and struggling she submitted to them by letting them hand rape her vagina and asshole while they were groping her all over her body, for at lease 40 minutes. She said she made this choice, because they were already inside her everywhere. Smith assault doesn't seem as sustain or prolong as Lara's assault.
Posted 7/1/2012 3:35 am
schussel is right. you can not blame pro-mubarak thugs when those attacks happen almsost every day. the later attack took place during Morsi's presidential election and his supporters did not do nothing to stop it or to help Smith. Instead, they participated. I think western media and LL did a big mistake supporting the arab spring. I think that LL assault was random, wrong place wrong time. Every blonde woman in that crowd will have the same experience. Egypt has serious cultural problems. LL in her interview did not say anything regarfing the motifs behind the attack. I do not understand why more than one yeat leter she says that the attack was organized by the army/mubarak... She maybe correct but she has to prove it as well.
It IS true, Egypt has a huge cultural problem concerning sexual harassment and assault but that problem has more to do with the aftermath...i mean we have serious problems in the west too with sexual assault/rape as you see in the news but we kinda DEAL with it far better. There is an awareness that it is wrong and you ought to help when something like that is going on and not participate. There is a sense of correct procedure involving the aftermath (with police, hospital and so on) Not to say that it is perfect, but it gives hope.
I do think it is a huge problem to kinda reason it with cultural problems though. Because it very conveniently shuts the lid on the regime and the regimes actions. Actually that is what DEBBIE wants to to. Her strategy is very clear and very simple. She wants to reduce everything to Islam and Muslims. But she completely overlooks and is blind to the fact that Egypt is a vicious brutal police state that lets tanks drive into masses of unarmed protesters to smash and grind them to bloody paste. For such a regime...a concentrated sexual assault on a reporter is NOTHING. A walk in the park...
That is the same with talking about Nazis, actually. Everyone sees only the racists and anti-Semites and hate mongers. But what MADE living in the Third Reich so difficult? It was the POLICE STATE. The horrible disdain for Life by the authorities in power. Of course it is all connected somehow but some elements are worse or more dangerous than other.
Posted 7/1/2012 5:50 pm
How many women must be raped in Egypt, for the world to know that this country is full of roaming wild rapist dogs and cowards. The public has given Lara credit for coming forward with her limited details of her attack, keeping the more horrible and gory parts to herself and only her family/close friends. This information could have really started a action against Egypt about this horrible on going crime, that's being blamed on criminal elements and thugs (THAT'S BULLSHIT!). Because of Lara, the information and details given by SMITH, helped her not to be embarrass and to have the courage to reveal much more, also it is believe Lara was assaulted longer with a much more brutal and gory sexual assault. Lara's Quote: "You can't imagine what they did to me". If she would have told us, maybe a more serious spotlight would have been placed on this horrible crime, and more action could have been taken.
Posted 7/1/2012 8:15 pm
. Muslim countries are decades behind the us, canada, australia and much of europe when it comes to womens rights. If you think about it most of these these countries are non secular and set their laws directly from the koran. All religions except buddhism clearly state the superiority of man over woman. Imagine if we let the Catholic church have veto power over the congress, we could treate American women like chattle too.
That is what i thought too, then i got my ass handed back to me by a young Muslim girl from Egypt in a you tube debate. What i do not get is this:
Islamist fighters in Mali have damaged the shrines of Muslim saints in the city of Timbuktu, witnesses say.
The fighters, from the Ansar Dine group, which controls much of northern Mali, attacked the mausoleum of Sidi Mahmoud, one of 16 shrines in the city.
Last week, the UN cultural organisation Unesco put Timbuktu on its list of endangered world heritage sites, fearing damage following the coup which toppled the Malian government in March.
Islamists regard shrines as idolatrous.
However, some Muslims, especially Sufis, regard them as an accepted part of Muslim worship.
Well, SJ, i do not want to start a religious debate here, but since you wrote it here, and since I read it, i must make a clarification. You would be surprized, but in Judaism, actually, women are considered to be on a higher spiritual level than men. It does not mean that men are bad, however. The commandments that they have to keep are actually there to enable men to raise themselves higher UP TO the level of their respective female soulmates. So, you might argue that those are men who have more overall ability to "imporve the world by improving themselves." But at the start the women are higher, and they exist, basically, for men to feel more G-dliness, and to be more interested in attaining higher spiritual goals. What comes easy to women, comes with a lot more effort to men. But you, guys, are not beyond hope... :). Slowly but surely you are getting closer and closer to being gentlemen... Which is, kind of the goal....
