I would not say I was humiliated at all for Kat left me alone and stop posting so how is that humiliation? Think you might be a tad jealous for I was the only one standing yesterday after the Kat attack for I and Kat had a disagreement and it was solved so where do you see the humiliation in that?
I don't see why Kat's initial suggestion offended you at all and I don't see why you lashed out at him or made it an issue. He may have singled you out but, seeing as how you are a perfect stranger to him, you shouldn't have taken it so personally. He's observed that most (if not all) of those still participating here in this thread (or lurking about therein), though they may have ulterior (or additional) motives steeped in politics, curiosity, empathy, etc., seem to have an underlying singular focus on obtaining or viewing footage of the attack. He's probably right that most of those hoping to gain access to such footage want to see Ms. Logan naked and want to see the sexual portion of the assault for the purpose of base personal gratification (probably including masturbation). You've experienced firsthand how immature and crude most of the comments have been; for him to assume everyone here has at least some corporal interest in all of this (at some base level) isn't outrageous at all. Why defend against his assertion so fervently? Let it go.
In fact, he's probably right. I mean, not knowing any of you personally, I've no clue as to what makes you tick. And, you don't know me so you can't say you really know my convictions. So, really, it's more likely, from an objective observer's perspective, that he's right. I'd bet on him being right. I can't speak for everyone. All I can do is say how I feel. Next time, just tell Kat how you feel once (stick up for yourself briefly) and then... let it go. *shrug*
The functional purpose of this thread, at this point, seems to be its use as an "early warning system" for any and all updates concerning new details about the rape from Ms. Logan's lectures, new evidence from around the world, new testimony, or pictures or video. People post every new article that mentions her name. People discuss every new report she makes on 60 Minutes or CBS Evening News. Some are planning on attending her lectures. All for what? Because we care? We have to spill our guts here continuously because we care? Really? Even those defending, do we have to defend against every stray comment when we've already posted volumes of reference material? Is it going to be the last word only that people review? Stumbling upon this thread someday, are people going to read the last three pages and leave it at that (people who matter) or will they take it all in context?
Posted 4/11/2012 5:59 am : Edited 4/11/2012 6:08 am
As someone who actually does care about the well-being of this woman, I've seen fit to limit my time here. I keep an eye on the place but I don't respond very much anymore. I'm not actively searching for any pictures or video elsewhere. I'm not hunting down Egyptians online. I honestly don't care about seeing what happened (seeing footage of the attack) anymore. You should think about backing off (and letting go) as well. All of you. You don't have to forget what happened. You don't have to stop defending Ms. Logan here. But, when it gets to the point that you're merely defending yourself and your interests here, it's time to step back. It's time to let it go.
If video surfaces, we'll all watch it. Great. Will we all masturbate? Who the hell cares? I don't care what you do. You can all log off and masturbate to me right now if you want. You can hug your pillow and pretend it's me and tell it about your day and how well you did in your spelling. I don't care. Nobody cares. None of you need a video to masturbate to Ms. Logan. Anyone who would masturbate to the video has probably masturbated to this thread already. Whatever. No big deal. It hasn't been a psychic burden on her. She's not Jean Grey. It doesn't matter.
Stop worrying about your own reputation. Nobody here knows you. How does it effect your pride if Kat believes you're going to spank it to Lara? Stop taking it so personally. You're a dot. You're a screen name. You don't matter to him. You (on here) don't matter to anyone. It's not about you. Defend Ms. Logan. Other than that, what does it matter? Are you somehow invested in people across the World Wide Web respecting the screen name PeeOnMyLeg2? Why?
I'll never understand the feuding and bullshitting back and forth that goes on here. I mean, I get how. It's just so pointless. We're all random here. It's anonymous. You don't have to win. You stand nothing to gain by winning anyone's respect here. Forget about it. Set the record straight on Ms. Logan when people talk shit about her. Fine. Share updates. Whatever. IGNORE the damn trolls! For fuck's sake, it doesn't matter! What Kat thinks of you doesn't matter. He can think whatever he wants. Why do you give a fuck?
Ms. Logan seems to be doing well. She's gotten back to her life. Very brave. Well done. It's an example we should all emulate.
You've been posting here for quite some time. Though you still post under variations of your initial screen name, I suspect most of your posts these days are anonymous. Do you post here a lot? Are you interested in exchanging a few emails? I'd like to know a little bit more about your interest in all this. If setting up a hotmail account is too much of a hassle, I understand. No worries. I'm just a little bit curious about you is all, you being one of the few females involved. I just thought I'd ask.
That is not the issue, Nine. The guy behaved like a holier than thou prick without even attempting to evaluate his own position. I call that dishonest from the start. It is very easy to kinda go hard on somebody else. It is very very difficult and very very hard to go hard on yourself. That is why everybody here hates him and ignores him as the thing he wants to be.
You give him far more credit than he deserves really. I mean i give you much credit. Why? See how long and critically of yourself your posting here was. That is what i call honesty and integrity. Just yelling: "You will masturbate to the video!" is not enough. Not by far. It is offensive to even read such a shallow attack. We have had far better in this thread. We are accustomed to much better writing.
Ms. Logan is worth defending here. We're not. You're not. I'm not. The name "nine" doesn't matter. It's just a number. It may as well be a dot. You were both sticking up for the few of us here (yourselves included) who seem to care about Ms. Logan and that's noble and good and fine... but it's entirely unnecessary because this thread isn't about us. We don't matter here. We shouldn't feel at home here. This place is not our home. This place isn't about us.
You've come here to stick up for a besieged woman and that's freaking awesome. Don't get stuck mopping up the place and polishing the furniture. We don't live here. We've got nothing invested here. There's no need to defend ourselves. Stick up for Ms. Logan and then call it a day. If you want to have a little fun that's fine but this isn't a playground. Get involved in some of the other threads or other forums if you like debating people. I like debating people. I do it elsewhere. It's fun. This place isn't about us having fun. It's about defending Ms. Logan. Anything else is totally unnecessary and potentially counter-productive... enabling... escalating...
Be laid back. Relax. Respond when it's appropriate. Don't respond when it's not going to add anything.
I'm sorry for not being around as much. You all seem nice. It would be cool to keep chatting each other up but... man... I don't... live here. This thread isn't my life. This is Lara's life. It's a thread about Lara Logan. Not me. Not you. We should never be the main topic in here. My honor (my pride) should not be defended vigorously here. Learn to not give a fuck what people think or say about you here. I've gotten in a few personal exchanges and I've regretted it every time. Lara should always be the main topic here. Not her defenders.
If possible, even she shouldn't be spoken of except for encouragements and positive updates on her condition. This isn't a game of Clue. This isn't a fan club. This isn't a thread about going back and forth or around in circles concerning what we think happened to her out there. It's not a support group. Do you get what I mean?
I can't dictate how anyone else behaves but I think this thread matters somehow so I try to respect it for what it is... which is someone else's story. Not mine.
Posted 4/11/2012 7:22 am : Edited 4/11/2012 7:34 am
I don't own this place. I don't live here. I don't play here. I don't mess around here. I try to be respectful. And, though I've gone back and forth about theories and scenarios myself... speculating and postulating theories... man, that's all done now. Until some new piece of evidence shows up it's all reruns so I've got nothing else to say.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we should keep repeating ourselves in here... into infinity. I don't know. All I know is... I'm not trying to win the argument. It's not about me winning. It's about her winning. It's about the truth but whether the truth comes out or not it's about her getting past it and getting on with her life. Are we going to solve the mystery? I don't care. I just want to stick up for what's right... to stick up for good people, for her.
If I never have to post here again, that'd be great. I don't post here because I like the sound of my voice. I don't post here so we can hang out. I post here because I care about what happened and what the future holds for Ms. Logan. If everything gets good and people here stop being dicks and I never have to post here again... sweet. I'll smile about it and go do something else. I'm not coming here for my own benefit. I'm just trying to help. If a post isn't going to help then I'm not going to write it. Do you see what I'm saying?
Posted 4/11/2012 7:00 pm
Well while doing some searching today I noticed that most web sites that offer up videos use youtube as their search engine. I find this strange since it is easy to censor any and all videos on youtube which is owned by google. 8 different video sites all use youtube which is odd indeed.
Posted 4/11/2012 7:09 pm
The Fat Kid's story must have been true, that the U.S. Goverment erase the entire attack of Lara Logan to prevent a total outrage. Obama also track down and killed Bin Laden another top event. Lara's assault/rape must have been so horrendous, that it was given top priority to make it disappear as they did Bin Laden. This was no hardcore groping/handrape. The burning of the American flag, killing an bald eagle and brutally raping Lara Logan in public, all this is saying Fuck the U.S. The cover-up so far have been very successful, I believe it stopped much bloodshed.