When she is an actor, than what are YOU? See the fatal flaw in your statement? When she is fake...what then are YOU? That is why you should never ever write such a statement again. You walk straight into a checkmate
No no you are not going to get off that easily! THAT WAS NOT A JOKE. It was just a hurtful comment to really mess up another one. That was Schoolyard Bully mocking and i will not stand by and let this shit happen. If YOU think his statement okay then you are a stupid arsehole that needs to be taught manners - the hard way if necessary. If you wrote this piece of garbage then i will tell you again that you are a stupid arsehole that does not get humor at all. Humor is when you laugh at yourself and not at others. Come on laugh at yourself one time in your tiny little life. It is about time.
And i am no product of the EU. The EU is a product of me. You going to give me grief now because the EU Zone is on the brink of collapse? Should i now cram out the errors and mistakes of the U.S in the last ten years? Are we going there yet? I have drawers full of material. Just shut up or you will reap the whirlwind.
I am waiting for you to compose a music piece where YOU take centerstage. Come on. Show me you have balls. Or are you the schoolyard bully who only owned the babies but was handed his ass back to him everytime by kids half his age?
Posted 12/8/2011 9:09 pm
The part two video never mentions organized attack but rather the same thought you have. As for the sinz video that is just the start of the attack where she is seperated similar to Lara Logans attack. Sinz was then moved to another location and stripped naked in broad day light. No one helped and the older adults helped strip her. Who says this was not planned either. It is far closer to the truth that it was an organized attack with evidence shown then of a random mob. as for the time frame Sinz states 45 minutes and that is broad daylight so if you take that and figure in the dark timeframe of Laras attack it would make more sense that it was longer than the 35 to 40 minutes suggested.
Posted 12/8/2011 9:12 pm
sorry to disagree with you but in fact over the last few months there have been dozens of reports of rapes in broad day light posted here on this board so I dont see your logic
Posted 12/8/2011 9:15 pm
I see your point but then again the angles are limited for a reason. Deniability. If it appears that only groping and hand raping is going on then there is no serious crime. This still does not answer the question of why there is no other videos from a certain time period or even pictures from that time period anywhere. The largest party on earth that day and there are very few pictures if any after 11pm which makes no sense.
Posted 12/8/2011 10:07 pm
AND NO BROKEN BONES,BUT NOW THEY'RE BREAKING BONES TOO.Fucking women to their death,will be the next step.This would have been Lara fate.Taking women from the area for the purpose of raping them,will be their next plan.
1. Sinz stated that the attack started around 11 am local time and went on for 45 minutes. The TV station live feed on the video has a digital clock in the lower right corner of the screen. It is almost noon local time. That is the end of the attack just before she is rescued. She described her clothes and underwear as being torn (but not torn off of her) during the attack in the translations I've seen. There is nothing about being stripped. She did say it was mostly young men with some older men joining in.
2. It doesn't "make sense" that because she was attacked at night Logan's time estimate must be increased. I doubt if the time estimate came from Logan anyway -- she wasn't out there with a stopwatch. Her team members probably determined the time estimate once she was rescued.
Posted 12/8/2011 11:12 pm
Logan: And I almost fell into the lap of this woman on the ground who was head to toe in black, just her eyes, I remember just her eyes, I could see.
My question is if this woman was sitting on the ground and she sees a mob of people coming, wouldn't she move out of the way?
Logan: Yes. And she put her arms around me. And oh my God, I can't tell you what that moment was like for me. I wasn't safe yet, because the mob was still trying to get at me. But now it wasn't just about me anymore. It was about their women and that was what saved me, I think. The women kind of closed ranks around me. And I remember one or two, maybe three men standing with them and throwing, the women were throwing water in the crowd.
So this woman who is wearing a traditional Muslim chador, who grew up in a male dominated society, is willing to risk her own life and the life of the people around her, standing up to a mob of 200 men to protect an unknown foreigner who the mob is calling a Jewish spy. These women were able to fend of the mob with water while Lara Logan's team of 5 men (Max McClellan, Richard Butler, Bahaa,two Egyptian drivers, and Ray) could not stop the mob from stripping and dragging her away.
I think this part of the story is made up to make it sound like the some Egyptians were helping her. If this was true, why in all her interviews and speeches about the assault has she not once thank the woman who held on to her. If someone saves your life, wouldn't you go out of your way to thank or try to contact this person even if you just catch a glimpse of this person.
Maybe she was surprised? Mob surged forward and all that.
Yes. BECAUSE: We do not know any details about the Mob at all. Hypothetically speaking? What if at the later stages of the assault there were mainly male youngsters around Lara? They surge forward with her and then they encounter a group of women with children. These women are older. Male dominated my ass if some forty year old woman yells at you to stop the bullshit you are doing and you are perhaps a Teenager you will comply. Especially if she is not alone. This woman would seem like an angry mother to these young men.
Even in a deeply male dominated society it is VERY important how old you are as a man. Are you 14? 22? 33? 45? 57? 65? Is the woman you encounter older or younger than you? Is she alone or does she have friends? How high is her status? How is her personality?
It may be that Lara Logan was saved by a Lioness in her own right. A woman who has borne sons. Someone who had family and friends backing her up. A mother who was maybe 20 years older than Laras Attackers.
There you have your reasoning.
Perhaps there are already attempts to do just that. But...let us suppose this woman came from the country. Bedouin or Fellachs. Something like that. She is not easy to be found at all.
Logan: Finally, finally some soldiers fought their way through the crowd with batons, beating the mob back,
The mob had to be beaten back by soldiers. I don't think a woman holding on to Lara could fend off the mob with some other women and a few men. All the mob needed to do was a kick or punch to the woman holding Lara in the head and she would have been out cold.
I do not necessarily see a contradiction here. Look: This was a rabble-situation. It is not like Lara Logan was kidnapped by some SAS or Navy Seals or GSG9 guys. If these people would have taken her i would also find it difficult to believe that some women could take away their prisoner away only later to be in dire need by soldiers to help them.
But in a rabble? IN a moving crowd of different groups? It is not that hard to believe that some group that got her lost her...but that another group INSIDE the crowd wanted her back. Its like with Caroline Sinz: She was freed and then the mob surged back to her and attacked the vehicle. A rabble crowd is sometimes strong and sometimes weak it is a moving phenomenon because there is essentially no clear defined personality.
