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  CBS News' Lara Logan Assaulted During Egypt Protests
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6l9Km_Tlk0&feature=channel_video_title

Clarissa Ward is risking her ass (I mean literally) going into Syria and interviewing freedom fighters while Lara is riding around in a Segway.
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RealEuropeanElitist said:
boob sequester said:Why wouldn't she share the whole story in full detail when she was asked about it on the Kalb Report or asked about it by Carol Jenkins or elsewhere? If she wanted her story told then it would be told. CBS has no power to stop her. Revealing that she was raped with dongs isn't going to harm her career more than revealing she was raped with hands. If she was raped with dongs she'd have said it already. Nobody leaves getting raped with dongs out of a rape story. Nobody. Ever.



I disagree. But not completely. The problem are the nuances. There seems to be a (credible?) fear that a description of a full gang rape is going to hurt her public image somehow. Maybe because when she starts to describe a little she has to describe more...and that would lead to a kind of trap where she would recount everything of the assault. Why should that be problematic?

Okay. Hypothetically speaking: What if rape by "dongs" was not really the shocking element of the assault? What if the really shocking element is the way the assault took place. I mean that the assault could have been - as already postulated - far more organized and long and took place in more phases than everyone even thought of in the most pessimistic scenarios.

I am - just postulating without ANY Evidence - not talking about one Gang-rape but multiple Gang-rapes in different locations over a longer time frame.

THAT could be far more horrific and problematic for her to say because it would cause (maybe) problems for CBS and Clinton and the Egyptian military junta.

Hypothetically speaking without ANY shred of Evidence. I know that sounds over-the top somehow. But just...hypothetically speaking: It would be a snowball effect.



You are completely naked in the middle of the street getting sexually assaulted by a mob of angry men and they're hand raping the holy hell out of your va-jay-jay and your sweet derriere forty minutes strong, taking pictures as they spank your ass and motorboat the shit out of your tits like a real live motorboatin' son-of-a-bitch but that's not embarrassing at all when you share it on national television. Nooooo. It's just the dongs. Only dongs are embarrassing to women. You sound so clueless right now.
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boob sequester said:You are completely naked in the middle of the street getting sexually assaulted by a mob of angry men and they're hand raping the holy hell out of your va-jay-jay and your sweet derriere forty minutes strong, taking pictures as they spank your ass and motorboat the shit out of your tits like a real live motorboatin' son-of-a-bitch but that's not embarrassing at all when you share it on national television. Nooooo. It's just the dongs. Only dongs are embarrassing to women. You sound so clueless right now.



Am I?
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YES! THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU!
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me and the wife played lara logan and the egyptians last night and it was fantastic
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. said:YES! THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU!



And you and your mates being that much informed and eloquent in your theories. I must be mad not acknowledging your superior wisdom. Evil me.
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evil? yeaaaaaaaaa. more like long winded jackass.
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RealEuropeanElitist said:
I disagree.
My third theory is that she never ever lied. She just left out the details. Okay it is a little bit problematic because she left so many details out that it kinda points out to some lesser violence instead of conveying the full horror of the assault. I do think that is troubling her. At Carol Jenkins you could see her emotional turmoil. I think that some part of that turmoil is the result of a crisis within her between of what she wants to tell (all the details) and "advice" from concerned parties to do nothing of that sort.



I disagree. I hear you and I understand how hard this must be for her. I don't think she is her normal self when she deals with anything related to this incindent. She did lie though on this point. The 25 minute point. She has since admitted it was more like 40 minutes. I think it was even longer than that. She clearly had sign off authority on the final edit of her own interview. She knew it was way more than 25 minutes. That was a lie and it was a lie told specifically to make the assault seem less sever than it was. No one would believe that she was in their clutches for over and hour and was not raped. I think the fact she is slowly increasing the time with every interview tells me that she feels she has not done the right thing on that particular point. She and we can all split hairs about whether omitting information is lying. Saying something was 25 minutes when it was really an hour is a lie. That's like me saying I have a 8 inch penis when it is really only 4.5 inches. They know to the minute how long she was gone. And I know to the mm how big my penis is. To say otherwise is a lie. They and she have lied about it. For those that care mine's about 6.4, which is certainly nothing to be ashamed of. She has nothing to be ashamed of either. Ah the power of analogy.
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RealEuropeanElitist said:I do not believe Lara Logan report part 2 is true.


No me either. But I think the details of it characterized what actually happened far more accurately than her 60 minutes interview.... Don't you agree?
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Regardless of whatever we think the part 2 video seems credible maybe not all eyewitness accounts in it but basically the embarrassment on her part I think is because the large numbers of men that raped her with penis and the humiliating sex acts that were done to her. Her statements on her statements on Facebook confirm this.
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. said:I disagree. I hear you and I understand how hard this must be for her. I don't think she is her normal self when she deals with anything related to this incindent. She did lie though on this point. The 25 minute point. She has since admitted it was more like 40 minutes. I think it was even longer than that. She clearly had sign off authority on the final edit of her own interview. She knew it was way more than 25 minutes. That was a lie and it was a lie told specifically to make the assault seem less sever than it was. No one would believe that she was in their clutches for over and hour and was not raped. I think the fact she is slowly increasing the time with every interview tells me that she feels she has not done the right thing on that particular point. She and we can all split hairs about whether omitting information is lying. Saying something was 25 minutes when it was really an hour is a lie. That's like me saying I have a 8 inch penis when it is really only 4.5 inches. They know to the minute how long she was gone. And I know to the mm how big my penis is. To say otherwise is a lie. They and she have lied about it. For those that care mine's about 6.4, which is certainly nothing to be ashamed of. She has nothing to be ashamed of either. Ah the power of analogy.




Then let me further extrapolate on the analogy. Imagine your penis broken and ripped off by some evildoers and you being treated in the hospital after that. Shortly after your operation you THOUGHT you were strong enough to talk about your penis being broken and ripped but when you talk about how long your penis really is now (much shorter) you just are so emotional that some people strongly advise you to reconsider. You - in no real condition to think clearly - say yes and sign everything they give to you.

You want to tell everybody how short your penis is and all that but you know in your state of confusion and weakness you got swayed earlier on. What do you do now? And: Did you really lie in the first place?



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The reel superjerk said:No me either. But I think the details of it characterized what actually happened far more accurately than her 60 minutes interview.... Don't you agree?



The TONE may have characterized what actually happened far more, yes. Not so much the details but the overall tone. In that regard it was more..."truth" than the interview.
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Just take a close look at her hidden meaning statements from her speeches and the Facebook entry .
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The Facebook entry this note for kitty alva read what she says and it confirms more happened.
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RealEuropeanElitist said:I disagree.

My theory is: The other journalists had it "easy" compared to her. All points to the fact that way more happened to Lara Logan than to them without marginalizing the brutal attack on the two ladies. But alone the fact that for example Mona could smile into the cameras after having broken bones should tell you something about the assault she went through. Lara Logan couldn't smile after that. A battle hardened journalist needed days in hospital and weeks at home to recuperate to some degree.

My second theory is that she told it all at CBS. But it was edited and omitted later on. It is also about her career. Are we demanding truth from her even if it could ruin her work and career? What are we bringing to the table to compensate for that?

My third theory is that she never ever lied. She just left out the details. Okay it is a little bit problematic because she left so many details out that it kinda points out to some lesser violence instead of conveying the full horror of the assault. I do think that is troubling her. At Carol Jenkins you could see her emotional turmoil. I think that some part of that turmoil is the result of a crisis within her between of what she wants to tell (all the details) and "advice" from concerned parties to do nothing of that sort.


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what you say here, REE makes perfect sence, amigo.
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boob sequester said:Why wouldn't she share the whole story in full detail when she was asked about it on the Kalb Report or asked about it by Carol Jenkins or elsewhere? If she wanted her story told then it would be told. CBS has no power to stop her. Revealing that she was raped with dongs isn't going to harm her career more than revealing she was raped with hands. If she was raped with dongs she'd have said it already. Nobody leaves getting raped with dongs out of a rape story. Nobody. Ever.



This is not what I am hearing from other journos. Seriously.
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Tal Umatar said:
boob sequester said:Why wouldn't she share the whole story in full detail when she was asked about it on the Kalb Report or asked about it by Carol Jenkins or elsewhere? If she wanted her story told then it would be told. CBS has no power to stop her. Revealing that she was raped with dongs isn't going to harm her career more than revealing she was raped with hands. If she was raped with dongs she'd have said it already. Nobody leaves getting raped with dongs out of a rape story. Nobody. Ever.



This is not what I am hearing from other journos. Seriously.



I meant to say that someone I know, who is in the profession, actually, said that this is totally not so easy to come out. There are probably plenty of advisors stopping her along the way. Truth of the matter this CAN affect her career, even Carol Jenkins says that specifically. This is not even reading between the lines.
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yea, and to say that CBS has no power over her is simply not true. Come on, who do you think she is, the CEO? Don't you think she needs to consider them too?
Why do you think the journos are so much railing around her? Maybe because there was more to the story. And more to what she said, as we can clearly see things cut out.

Anyway, what ever it is, I am very impressed with her as a person and as a journalist. And I do agree with those that say we should stop second guessing everything. I still come here and post, but it is only because I pretty much know that her experience should not be belittled. Period.
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. said:So Europerson, you believe the Lara Logan report part 2 or do you know more than you let on?



I think he might know more. And that makes sence to me. Enough said.
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Tal Umatar said:I meant to say that someone I know, who is in the profession, actually, said that this is totally not so easy to come out. There are probably plenty of advisors stopping her along the way. Truth of the matter this CAN affect her career, even Carol Jenkins says that specifically. This is not even reading between the lines.



how would this hurt her career? If what she already told us did not hurt it, how would a more severe attack do so? considering that she has recieved numerous awards and been asked to speak at many universities? hurting her career was what women thought before, but since Logan came out with lurid details, her career is fine, the only thing hurting her is her PTSD, and thats an issue within herself, which can be corrected.
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boob sequester said:Why wouldn't she share the whole story in full detail when she was asked about it on the Kalb Report or asked about it by Carol Jenkins or elsewhere? If she wanted her story told then it would be told. CBS has no power to stop her. Revealing that she was raped with dongs isn't going to harm her career more than revealing she was raped with hands. If she was raped with dongs she'd have said it already. Nobody leaves getting raped with dongs out of a rape story. Nobody. Ever.

To many horrific ways,to many dongs.
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. said:me and the wife played lara logan and the egyptians last night and it was fantastic


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. said:
Tal Umatar said:I meant to say that someone I know, who is in the profession, actually, said that this is totally not so easy to come out. There are probably plenty of advisors stopping her along the way. Truth of the matter this CAN affect her career, even Carol Jenkins says that specifically. This is not even reading between the lines.



how would this hurt her career? If what she already told us did not hurt it, how would a more severe attack do so? considering that she has recieved numerous awards and been asked to speak at many universities? hurting her career was what women thought before, but since Logan came out with lurid details, her career is fine, the only thing hurting her is her PTSD, and thats an issue within herself, which can be corrected.


Ok. On the one hand, I agree with you. On the other hand... I am hearing differently. I can somewhat understand it, myself, based on the fact that a bulk of her career is Middle East. They do not give women awards for comming out with dignity with things like that. Yes, and the dong thing does make a HUGE difference there. I am hearing that the reason why she is not in the Middle East right now is more than just her own, natural, and quite understandible apprehension. Her bosses do need to consider the Middle Eastern thinking even more than she. She is in turmoil as you can imagine. So, she is getting many many awards, which, in practically everyone's opinion here she deserves. But this is here.
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Having said that, I do wonder if we all should just shut up, indeed.
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to the troll who registered my moniker -- I guess you can explain why I keep on comming here. Joking about things like that is very cruel and inappropriate. A lot of us here realized that after a while, which I find amazing.

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