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  CBS News' Lara Logan Assaulted During Egypt Protests
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. said:those comments are ridiculous and childish. no one wants to read what those guys have to say.



Some muslims are obsessed with women, thats why they force them to wear these ugly cloth.
Islam never teached men how to handle their sexuality in a mature way.
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BasementBoi said:When will religion finally cease to exist.



I find your moniker just hilarious! I mean i cannot get even offended at something like that, ROFL.

When will religion finally cease to exist? I have a problem with it because it depicts religion in an overly negative way. And mind you, that is coming from a person who is essentially very religion skeptic.
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. said:Some muslims are obsessed with women, thats why they force them to wear these ugly cloth.
Islam never teached men how to handle their sexuality in a mature way.



Is it the job of a religion to teach men about sexuality? I think that troublesome to think. I think you gotta learn about sexuality but i do not think that religion is best qualified for that.
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"Baltagiya," was the one-word explanation used by many Egyptians - including those who preferred to give the regime a second chance so they could get back to normal life. An all-encompassing word that literally means "thugs" or "gangs" in Egyptian Arabic, "baltagiya," according to Issandr El Amrani, a Cairo-based political analyst and writer, "might be gangs, police informants, or unemployed youths that can be hired, or just poor people who are paid off. "

http://www.aljazeerah.info/News/2011/February/9%20n/Enter%20the%20Baltagiya,%20How%20Mubarak's%20Security%20Forces%20Intimidated%20Opposition%20for%20Decades%20by%20Using%20Hired%20Thugs.htm

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RealEuropeanElitist said:Is it the job of a religion to teach men about sexuality? I think that troublesome to think. I think you gotta learn about sexuality but i do not think that religion is best qualified for that.



No it is not. So why is Islam repressing women than?
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RealEuropeanElitist said:I find your moniker just hilarious! I mean i cannot get even offended at something like that, ROFL.

When will religion finally cease to exist? I have a problem with it because it depicts religion in an overly negative way



Religion is negative, childish and dumb. Fuck all religion.
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Hunter said:

Also, i do not hear news about her getting pregnant. So how did she get penetrated by multiple men and then not get pregnant? That would mean penetration vaginally didn't happen?




ROFL.

Okay, seriously now. You are thereby FORCED to attend sex education. Sorry. If you do not comply you are prone to be arrested!
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BasementBoi said:No it is not. So why is Islam repressing women than?



Islam is not repressing women. It is people who repress women. It is a matter of who wields power over whom. The problem is not that in these countries Islam is so strong. It is more the problem that there are too many thugs and brutal and cruel psychopaths who rule over others.
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. said:"Baltagiya," was the one-word explanation used by many Egyptians - including those who preferred to give the regime a second chance so they could get back to normal life. An all-encompassing word that literally means "thugs" or "gangs" in Egyptian Arabic, "baltagiya," according to Issandr El Amrani, a Cairo-based political analyst and writer, "might be gangs, police informants, or unemployed youths that can be hired, or just poor people who are paid off. "

http://www.aljazeerah.info/News/2011/February/9%20n/Enter%20the%20Baltagiya,%20How%20Mubarak's%20Security%20Forces%20Intimidated%20Opposition%20for%20Decades%20by%20Using%20Hired%20Thugs.htm



Real Masked Truth said:These thugs could just be thugs or as caroline describes they use the teens to seperate and the adults then strip her. I am thinking members of the secret police having the kids do the hard part and then they can strip them and humiliate them in what ever way they can. Carolines was in broad daylight and with that I don't think her attack was as brutal or as long as Lara's and she had not been ordered out of the country like Lara was so it was more a humiliating assault to prove a point and make her leave but Caroline also states that she thought she was going to die same as Lara's statement

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BasementBoi said:Religion is negative, childish and dumb. Fuck all religion.



The problem is the POWER structure of Religion. You know the real grievance i have with Religion? God is depicted as KING or LORD or BOSS. Change it. See God as A FRIEND. Or as your PARTNER. And presto, everything will be different: Suddenly you do not have to adhere to Commandments or Orders. Sadly most Religious do not see it that way.
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.. said:
. said:"Baltagiya," was the one-word explanation used by many Egyptians - including those who preferred to give the regime a second chance so they could get back to normal life. An all-encompassing word that literally means "thugs" or "gangs" in Egyptian Arabic, "baltagiya," according to Issandr El Amrani, a Cairo-based political analyst and writer, "might be gangs, police informants, or unemployed youths that can be hired, or just poor people who are paid off. "

http://www.aljazeerah.info/News/2011/February/9%20n/Enter%20the%20Baltagiya,%20How%20Mubarak's%20Security%20Forces%20Intimidated%20Opposition%20for%20Decades%20by%20Using%20Hired%20Thugs.htm



Real Masked Truth said:These thugs could just be thugs or as caroline describes they use the teens to seperate and the adults then strip her. I am thinking members of the secret police having the kids do the hard part and then they can strip them and humiliate them in what ever way they can. Carolines was in broad daylight and with that I don't think her attack was as brutal or as long as Lara's and she had not been ordered out of the country like Lara was so it was more a humiliating assault to prove a point and make her leave but Caroline also states that she thought she was going to die same as Lara's statement




I agree. Obviously street youngsters are employed by the security apparatus.
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RealEuropeanElitist said:Islam is not repressing women. It is people who repress women. It is a matter of who wields power over whom. The problem is not that in these countries Islam is so strong. It is more the problem that there are too many thugs and brutal and cruel psychopaths who rule over others.



Islam is a shitty ideology+religion, and it provides the justification for men to repress women.
Of course these men (and women) have personal problems, that comes with living in shitty ass-backwards religious countries.
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the more you know... said:
Hunter said:I'm curious. If you guys were there and saw this, would you have copped a feel if there was no way you get in trouble?


Also, i do not hear news about her getting pregnant. So how did she get penetrated by multiple men and then not get pregnant? That would mean penetration vaginally didn't happen?



Hunter,

Something you'll learn when you get older (when you have to take health class in high school) is that couples trying to have a baby sometime have to try for months before getting pregnant. A woman doesn't get pregnant every time she has sex even without using a condom or birth control. You'll understand when you're older.



No kidding. And that even besides the fact that most women - especially with having two babies - using protection like the pill.
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RealEuropeanElitist said:The problem is the POWER structure of Religion. You know the real grievance i have with Religion? God is depicted as KING or LORD or BOSS. Change it. See God as A FRIEND. Or as your PARTNER. And presto, everything will be different: Suddenly you do not have to adhere to Commandments or Orders. Sadly most Religious do not see it that way.



The problem is that there IS OBVIOUSLY NO GOD. And that you either have to believe in a materialistic scientific philosophy like ontological naturalism, or in some kind of idealistic cartoon world, where everything is possible. Science or religion - you choose!
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BasementBoi said:
RealEuropeanElitist said:Islam is not repressing women. It is people who repress women. It is a matter of who wields power over whom. The problem is not that in these countries Islam is so strong. It is more the problem that there are too many thugs and brutal and cruel psychopaths who rule over others.



Islam is a shitty ideology+religion, and it provides the justification for men to repress women.
Of course these men (and women) have personal problems, that comes with living in shitty ass-backwards religious countries.



THE POWERSTRUCTURE in Islam makes all the problems. Seeing God as essentially your boss is the problem. Of course that leads to backwardness in thinking especially with people who are prone to believe in very jungle-like hierarchy.
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DAMN STRAIGHT I TAPPED THAT ASS!
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RealEuropeanElitist said:THE POWERSTRUCTURE in Islam makes all the problems. Seeing God as essentially your boss is the problem. Of course that leads to backwardness in thinking especially with people who are prone to believe in very jungle-like hierarchy.



The powerstructure is just a reflection of the economical structure. Sure, if you live in a power shithole of a country, without a proper education, you start to believe the dumb bullshit religion offers as answer.
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BasementBoi said:The problem is that there IS OBVIOUSLY NO GOD. And that you either have to believe in a materialistic scientific philosophy like ontological naturalism, or in some kind of idealistic cartoon world, where everything is possible.



There may be something like God but not in a kind of "i can grab or feel or see it" sense.

I am believing there may be a God in a psychological sense. Not in the world out there but in us. Deep in our over-large souls.
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BasementBoi said:The powerstructure is just a reflection of the economical structure. Sure, if you live in a power shithole of a country, without a proper education, you start to believe the dumb bullshit religion offers as answer.



No. The power-structure is EVERYWHERE. YOu do have a job? You have a boss? Presto! You were a child with a mom and dad? You better come home until midnight or you are grounded! Power-structures everywhere! You go to mass you kneels you pray your sins are forgiven! THE LORD does it for you. Power-structures!!!

Even in the west: Everywhere are power-structures.

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RealEuropeanElitist said:There may be something like God but not in a kind of "i can grab or feel or see it" sense.

I am believing there may be a God in a psychological sense. Not in the world out there but in us. Deep in our over-large souls.



This doesn't explain anything. If a supernatural entity can interfer with this world, science isn't possible anymore! This is the basic philosophical background of the scientific method

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysical_naturalism
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RealEuropeanElitist said:No. The power-structure is EVERYWHERE. YOu do have a job? You have a boss? Presto! You were a child with a mom and dad? You better come home until midnight or you are grounded! Power-structures everywhere! You go to mass you kneels you pray your sins are forgiven! THE LORD does it for you. Power-structures!!!

Even in the west: Everywhere are power-structures.



It is called capitalism, son.
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BasementBoi said:This doesn't explain anything. If a supernatural entity can interfer with this world, science isn't possible anymore! This is the basic philosophical background of the scientific method

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysical_naturalism



The scientific method does not exclude vastly powerful entities that can manipulate physics to meet their ends. Compared to the fucking neanderthal we are GODs. We fly in planes. We operate on the heart. We have economic structures that erase hunger and disease.
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BasementBoi said:It is called capitalism, son.



No. Power-structures do not adhere to Capitalism alone! Look: If parents tell their children how to behave it has nothing to do with capitalism. But it IS a power-structure!
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RealEuropeanElitist said:
nine said:
If footage exists and is in the possession of CBS, it's either too graphic to be shown -- even just a portion of it -- or too embarrassing or something. Or, it's just not in their possession at all. I mean, every other attack that was recorded in any fashion was broadcasted. Even the Fox News guy who just had audio. But, for Lara, nothing. Still. After nine months. Nine months. Nine.



That points to how badly the assault on her really must have been. It was so horrible that - if they (CBS) have it in their possession (its only hypothetically speaking!) it must be so horrific that they cannot show it. Even small bits of it.



It could be that everyone was just so embarrassed by the overall tone of the incident that they couldn't bring themselves to show even the outset of the attack. Her producer said she looked like a rag doll when it was over. Obviously, she got fucked up pretty bad and they did some really mean shit to her down there in the dirt that night. They wouldn't have been so secretive about it if it wasn't gruesome.
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Maybe they puked on her face for vomiting all over their offices. Ew.

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