Posted 11/2/2011 5:14 pm
You are basing your thoughts off your feelings and not facts. Journalism in this day and age is who gets the story first and out not what it is about or even if the facts were checked. Either you do not read many papers, watch tv or still are living in the 60's because this day and age they exploit what ever they can to get ratings and sale papers.
Posted 11/2/2011 5:16 pm
You can be blunt all you want but your still so wrong that it is blunt. Face it that journalist are after the big story no matter what and even if it is one of their own they would go for it and think about the fall out later.
Posted 11/2/2011 5:23 pm
If the video or pictures has been uploaded then it is on a sight that is not accessible to but a few. That being said several sites that do promote this sort of stuff do not even have it on there but that does not rule out bbs systems and the fact that it could be uploaded under some odd name like toothpaste in the streets or some thing like that. But from the searchs that I have done daily for the last 9 months I have nothing and even less now then when I started.
Actually i don`t read any newspapers anymore. I don´t watch Tv. And I am living in the 21th Century thank you very much. But still you are tiptoeing over the fact that you base your opinions on a warped cynic sense of humanity concerning journalists. I base my opinions on a realistic sense of humanity concerning journalists.
What does that mean? Its simple: You are a journalist. I am a journalist. A troll here is also a journalist. YOU get raped by someone on an assignment. The troll wants to load up the footage of the attack in all details.
What do you expect me to do? This is a simple question. What do you think i would do?
Posted 11/2/2011 5:28 pm
As for conspiracy thoughts with the time gap in pictures and video that has yet to be explained by anyone here. Journalist could not keep pictrues from the web or video. Only a few could do that and most are governments. The Black list of things to be shown on the web is long and grows each day so that we the sheep can find a good meal or low price plane tickets but if they in the circle of power don't want us to see something then we wont. But with all their power the truth will come out just like so many sex tapes and so many documents on governments and their evil doings. As it is written the truth shall set you free but hiding it will only prolong the effects and doom those in the conspiracy.
Posted 11/2/2011 5:31 pm
I am not being a cynic but reporting what is happening. If you are living in the 21st century as you claim then get over the fact that Journalist are human are they not. and being human they have human desires. They also want to keep their job in an industry that is dying daily. They would if they were permitted to investigate that story to death. The fact they have not even hardly commented on it at all proves that they are controlled by higher ups who want the story dead.
Posted 11/2/2011 5:36 pm
Prove I am wrong. I am not being a cynic but basing my words off facts of the day. Take into consideration that journalists are not getting paid and worked for themselves. Would they write a story to promote themselves or skip it and not get paid. They would write the story. Watch the news that you praise as being so nice and tell me how those people would not write or investigate if they could this story
Posted 11/2/2011 5:37 pm
And your know this how? this explains nothing but a guess and not an educated guess either but more like you rolled a 4 sided die and made a saving throw.
Look: The also have human ethics and values. You are thinking too much about them as warped human beings. I will not say that they aren´t assholes out there but come on you just judge them ALL as assholes.
If they have not investigated this it proves only one thing: They care and fear for their own. Even in competition. They should.
Ehem educated guess? It is a grounded opinion. Evidence: It is not out NOW after what eight nine months? And if there is evidence it is in safe journalistic hands and will not get out.
Posted 11/2/2011 5:41 pm
Explain the missing time gap in pictures and videos from the biggest party on the planet that given night then? Oh yeah, you can't say that everyone put their cameras up after 11pm because everyone knows that the best pictures come late at night and near the end of the party. As for the Black list it has been around since the late 80s and is controlled by the NSA. The same method they used when you talked on the phone is the same method they use when you post something on the web. It is all 1's and 0's and they have the power for sure.
Posted 11/2/2011 5:44 pm
It does not prove that but that the fact they are not means other reasons such as a coverup, told not to, ordered not to, prevented from doing so, the list goes on and on. As you say there are ass holes out there and they would for sure investigate and attack her if they could but they are not even attempting too.....why? Journalist creed of ethics....I don't think so?
Posted 11/2/2011 5:49 pm
Whose opinion? As for not out how do you know other then you have not found it yet? The fact that you have not seen it on the web does not mean it is not on the web. We all know that kiddie porn is on the web but do you see kiddie porn when you look for it? Nope and there is a reason for that. One lawenforcement has cracked down and the people that deal in kiddie porn have gone underground but still have their stuff out there. Same with other types of videos and pictures. As for being in a safe journalistic hands that is laughable. Journalists like most everyone on the web are easy prey for hackers and such and more likely to get out by same said journalist then not.
Yes journalistic creed of ethics...look...if i were a journo and i would think about researching LLs story...i would feel a penis up my ass.
Do you understand what i am trying to tell you? It is about knowing: I could be next. Why the hell would i try to make a story out of that only to hear from my editor the very same thing: Hey dude you could be next too. We have a nice little assignment for you where you interview a infamous skinhead leader who throttled three grandmas in their beds. What the fuck. You can be sure that i would feel it in my guts! Violence against journalists on assignmens?! OF COURSE!
Kiddie porn is something completely different. It has a specific buyer base. That is what i tried to tell you with grounded opinion: There is simply no buyer base for footage of journalists getting raped or killed. There isn´t. The evidence that in seven months nothing came up supports my grounded opinion. It supports also the grounded opinion that it´s more a reluctance of journalists do not touch the damn thing if they would have found it.
Posted 11/2/2011 5:55 pm
As for the human ethics and values of journalist you hold them too high on the evolutionary chain for they are sharks. Only a few rungs above lawyers and polictians. The mainstream ones would steer clear do to fall out right after the first few attempted to say anything about the attack got canned. That is the key you see is that those that said anything or even attempted to were told to stop or else. Something made them stop and it was not ethics, values or pride but threat of loss of job or worst.
Posted 11/2/2011 5:57 pm
There is no such thing as a journalistic creed of ethics any more look at the news they no longer check facts and report what they read off the web more often then not. They tell a story and most cases not a correct story but one they want you to believe in
Posted 11/2/2011 6:00 pm
Nope same thing for a rape crime video is on the same par for both are not something that will pop up in a google search. Does not need to be a buyer base take for example the Erin Andrews voyeur footage. No buyer base and not sold to any one but posted. It proves that it was out for months under some weird name before people figured it out. Journalists are sharks and would post what they see if they saw it plain and simple for it is a story that they would tale
Look its simple mathematics. ONLY foreign correspondents have access to any evidence in egypt. Okay. How many foreign correspondents do you have in Egypt? From CBS, ABC, CNN and a few others? A few major newspapers? Delete the europeans. Only take the americans and maybe the english. Delete the arabs. They do not seem to have ANY interest in it right now.
So: How many american and english foreign correspondents are in Egypt?
Two Dozen? Three Dozen? Including the freelancers that are working for the major few?
Three dozen journalists are easily able to come to a gentleman´s agreement. PLUS: Their bosses are even less numerous. What will the chief editor in ABC say about the LL story? He will say: PASS on it! What will CNN do? The very same. The newspapers could be a problem but since the scandal in Murdochs newspapers they are playing it super safe. And there you have it. Simple mathematics. A handful of people and only a few companies.
