I rather think the sentence was a reaction to the post about "her tits hanging out" and so on. It was a rude and insubstance remark and the poster (wohever he or she may be) reacted with a reprimand. You then accused him or her of exactly the thing the previous poster has done.
Look: What do you expect or wish for? That she stays veiled in her house weeping all the time? That seems very cruel, don´t you agree? I know i have the same problems depicting a rape assault victim smiling and laughing but that´s because we have the fixed mindset that a victim should be miserable all the time forever. That seems excessive though. I attribute her "Phoenix"like bearing to a very good trauma psycho-theraphy from day one. She was arguably intelligent and knowing enough to just get help when she saw that she needed it (from the very beginning on) And that´s why she is handling herself very admirably. I do think that the ceremony is a further step in honoring her (meaning to combat the humiliating aspect of the rape) It´s extensive psycho-therapy for her to attend these shows to get a prize or two. I know it is frustrating to be left in the dark about what exactly happened to her and why the information is so warped and lacking but that´s no excuse to demand misery from a rape victim forever, to expect her to live like a nun from now on.
Posted 8/10/2011 9:01 am
I've been following this blog for quite a while, for some time I thought it was going off the rails and I was afraid that the people did not wanted this story to see the light of day were winning. Some of you are imprest by Ms. Logan's demeanor I would have not expected anything less from any professional. I keep wondering about a few things, why it is that no one has heard from anyone in her crew except for her producer and why is it that anyone says that he witnessed the attack that evening is jumped on ridiculed and denounced. CBS has spun this story and controls it to this day I would not be surprised if some of the bloggers are being paid by them, just right something negative and see how fast your jumped on. I also would not be surprised if some of the heart felt apologies of the Egyptian people were not written by the same people. The trashing of the eyewitnesses without pictures is puzzling how did we relate a story before the invention of film and digital cameras and the Internet. The media itself relies on eyewitnesses but as we all know without pictures you are labeled a liar or a pervert, the media giveth and the media taketh away. I find it strange that people are more interested in the actual attack than the fact that the media and governments have been able to control the story, and every time I read a blog from some bonehead I have to wonder how he earns his money. I also wonder why the tabloids haven't ran with this story, a revolution, a rape, a rescue, a cover-up, a beautiful blonde international reporter, and not a word. I watched some of Lara Logan's reports on 60 min. she asked the tough questions she gave us the truth how does she feel that those standards don't apply to her. I can understand that she does not want to be known as the reporter that got raped in Egypt but it makes me wonder if this story she has covered are as accurate and truthful or is it just some more media spin.
That she is a professional has nothing to do how she should react to an extremely intense sexual attack. I suppose even a battle hardened navy seals six team soldier is going to be shaken up after a vicious sexual attack. That gets under your skin (no pun intended) like nothing other.
Her crew has probably got special orders to not talk to anyboddy (I believe also that they won´t talk out of their own accord about this because a member of the team got assaulted)
Th You pointed it out yourself:In the fucking middle ages people believed that you got sick because some angel or god was angry at you. There was no way to discern such fantasies. Someone told you in the next village there was found a dead unicorn and you believed it because you were already trained to believe in utter nonsense without proof. Without proof and evidence only logic remains and logic doesn´t cover details. Especially in this case here.
Because LL is one of their own. Journalists are a big family (when it comes to damage control to their own in special cases like rape or gruesome murder) and they have troubles to stay objective in this particular situation. That spreads internationally. Then: Trouble is still brewing in egypt and nobody can really do some serious recherche there. CBS wants this lid closed and i suppose even LL. Of course there is a paradox that a reporter can ask some tough questions but is not really answerable the other way around when something happens to her/him. And there is the special nature of this incident: It´s about sex. That too is still taboo. sex is messy. Then the victim is a blonde beautiful woman. That´s even more intense and especially men i guess are reacting in the most irresponsible manner to that. Then there is rape (forced sex, sex without consent) That´s all very difficult stuff and in this case it happened to a journalist, a gatekeeper of information itself.
Posted 8/10/2011 1:06 pm : Edited 8/10/2011 1:07 pm
I am surprised that his head circomference is nearly the size of the toilet. All this time I thought it would be WAY SMALLER.
Congratulations, Buthead (well, literally), you did a beautiful job grossing us all out. This thread really does attract all sorts of people....
Dear Bro 55,
I really respect your questions and doubts. I suspect that I am one of the people that you have so eloquently said of: "Some of you are imprest by Ms. Logan's demeanor I would have not expected anything less from any professional." I have a hard time understanding the insinuation, however. Are you saying tht some of us here (myself included) are such ardent "Lara Logan apologists" that it seems like we had been hired by CBS? (And you are also saying that there is apparently a similar battle waged against her by "Egyptian Apologists," (here or elsewhere) and we all seem to be the opposite sides of the same coin, and you are suspecting that we all are being paid by someone or other?
(see below)
Posted 8/10/2011 2:31 pm
It surely is a fair question, and I appreciate the fact that you are asking it in a respectful manner. I assure you that I am not (although, if they are reading this, they should get the hint that it would not be such a bad thing. Just kidding). And I do not know of anyone on this blog who is being paid. I think that all of us, apologists (at least those with registered Monikers) are here doing what we are doing because we like Ms Lara. Apparently, some of these people have not even heard of her before this story became public. I certainly knew very little, but as I have started following the story I grew in my admiration.
For some of us, including myself, this blog has also proved to be a great lesson in human psychology. I do have to go now, but you are wellcome to write to my "tertiary" email address OutboundKennedy@gmail.com. I will play some spy games with you, hopefully you will not be annoyed, my intentions would be simply to confirm that you are who you say you are (bro55), as I want to make sure that I do not get any input from the toilet above. Everyone else, is of course, more than wellcome to write, especially Man In Love, FVR, Father Perlaut (can;t spell the name, sorry), and all those people who might have written under those names, but had since changed their Monikers.
Thanks a lot,
CompassionBreak.
Bro55 -- actually, I am a pathological "journo-phobe." But, I cannot remember one interview where a journalist would go hard on a rape victim... Why is a rape victim any different from the rest of the world? Most people kind of understand it. Rape victims are already downtrodded, and it is very low to hit someone laying on the ground.
As for Lara Logan asking tough questions... she only does it to big, confident people, including Musharraf, or Barak Obama. Someone stated earlier that her interviews of the US heroes (Memorial Day Weekend), involved tough questions. I was actually under a very different impression. I thought she was very complimentary to them, supportive, and admiring. They were obviously emotionally moved, but so was she, apparently. Talking about emotionally provoking things in a supportive environment, which she seemed to have provided for them, would be healing, cathartic for them. We have a person who has served in the millitary here, he probably has comrades that have PTSD. I think we should ask him for his opinion on that.
Bring me an example of one interview, where Lara Logan is acting cruel?
Posted 8/10/2011 2:56 pm
Another thing that I like about her, really like, is that her colligues had said somewhere, is that she would never pick a target less than her size. See, I could tell that just from her reports. So, I suspect that my judgement of her is right on track.
Honestly, sir, I know that I myself can be raped today, tomorrow, or the day after. I have NO guarantees that this will not happen. If it does, I know I would feel as if "morally, emotionally, mentally" I was thrown to the ground. This would be true despite all my inner strength, accomplishments, and my feeling of dignity and you name it. Have you ever lost a game that was important to you to win? Think of that analogy. I have lost such games. And I am greatful for it, because today, it really helps me understand people who had been there too.
Posted 8/10/2011 7:07 pm
The National Press Club's John Aubuchon Press Freedom Award ceremony for Lara Logan in Washington,will this be televise??? If so does anyone have the information? Please post it,thank-you.
Tonight: 2011 NPC Journalism AwardsCeremony begins at 7pm
The National Press Club will present awards for outstanding journalism at the 2011 Journalism Awards Ceremony on August 10. Click through to watch the live webcast starting at 7pm.
Posted 8/10/2011 9:57 pm
I agree with some of this but the reason the few witnessess have been attacked because they themselves cannot verify their story and they have an agenda along with CBS. The only witness that claimed to see the whole thing said nothing happened and it was a relaxed night in the square yet we have seen many reports of similar attacks on other women that night and he being a photojournalist himself cant provide any pictures either.....it is a very big coverup for sure
Posted 8/10/2011 11:51 pm
Okay guys I'm glad to see that someone still thinking out there. The questions I posed did not use the word ( all) yet it seemed that all took offense, just as that night in February(some) Egyptians attack Lara Logan and (some) Egyptians raped her and (some) Egyptians saved her. My questions are just that questions but it seems it's more important to some people that the story be told there way. My father told me there is no such thing as a stupid question only stupid answers if you believe I have it wrong let me know your truth, but mind you know stupid answers. There is always many sides to every story Lara's side, the mobs side, the crew's side, the armies side, the State Department's side, CBS's side, and the truth? And Egyptian cleric said of a woman going out in public without a headscarf or in proper cover was like putting raw meat outside your door and being surprised the cats eat it, so to this cleric women are no more than meat and men cannot control themselves and they are no more than animals interesting side, that puts Lara at fault. I find that thinking barbaric and from the ( middle ages) and was pointed out to me as (nonsense) (just my opinion) I'm not trying to change anyone's mind or win when a fight. By posing questions that provoke thought may lead to the truth or more questions. The fact that CBS's story so sidesteps the magnitude and of the attack with word games leads to more questions. Yesterday Mubarek appeared in court in Egypt TV footage showed a group of supporters attacking a group of protesters, the clip showed two men one with a stick and one with his belt off using it as a wip remind you of anything. The way the attack and the rescue took place questions the time factor. Every story every blog says there was 20 soldiers and a group of women some say six some say four pretty accurate no one can tell you what time it was. They speculate between 25 and 30 min. finding one let alone 20 soldiers in that crowd and 25 to 30 min. is questionable let alone language problem location problem and the time to fight their way in poses another question. I'm sure that someone will ridicule me for that question have at it, And here's something for you to think about go back and review her interview check out the picture of Ray he doesn't look like a 25 year old hard-core bodyguard looks like he's got quite a bit of gray hair. But I really did appreciate the picture of the frat house toilet must've been a hell of a party.
A pre-op transsexual sandwiched between a bear and twink and sucking off another tranny while hopped up on amyl poppers, listening to Liza Minelli in the sauna of a Castro Street Victorian Style bed and breakfast exclusively furnished by Pottery Barn could not be more queer.
