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Posted 6/30/2010 1:29 am
You're an agnostic what? An agnostic atheist? An agnostic theist?
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:35 am
toast said: You're an agnostic what? An agnostic atheist? An agnostic theist?
Agnostic would mean you are saying you don't know if their is a god or that there is no way to know if their is a God.
Atheist is that you believe their is no God
Its all explained here
http://www.400monkeys.com/God/
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:37 am
I am an Agnostic and I feel insulted by this thread.
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:39 am
Quence said: I am an Agnostic and I feel insulted by this thread.
Do you believe in God(s)?
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:41 am : Edited 6/30/2010 1:41 am
. said: Agnostic would mean you are saying you don't know if their is a god or that there is no way to know if their is a God.
Atheist is that you believe their is no God
Correct, but since you don't know the difference between "their" and "there" I fear you are not helping my cause
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:41 am
ever_victorious_ehen said: "Agnostic" is ancient Greek for 'this entire debate has gone over my head'
FIXED FOR ACCURACY.
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:43 am
Quence said: I am an Agnostic and I feel insulted by this thread.
Wait till god tells you he hates fags.
http://www.godhatesfags.com/
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:43 am : Edited 6/30/2010 1:44 am
FluffyKitten said: "I don't know" becomes "No" at death
"I don't know" doesn't answer the question of "Do you believe in God(s)?"
Knowledge and belief are two different things.
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:46 am
toast said: "I don't know" doesn't answer the question of "Do you believe in God(s)?"
Knowledge and belief are two different things.
It's a Yes or No question. "I don't know" means the same thing theologically as "No"
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:47 am
toast said: "I don't know" doesn't answer the question of "Do you believe in God(s)?"
Knowledge and belief are two different things.
No, you can truly not know. What if someone asked you if you believed if a discarded Furby was buried at a certain spot on earth, some spot in the Sahara desert that you did not have the means to get to.
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:49 am
FluffyKitten said: It's a Yes or No question. "I don't know" means the same thing theologically as "No"
I don't KNOW refers to KNOW-LEDGE about the subject. Belief is entirely separate from knowledge.
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:50 am
toast said: Do you believe in God(s)?
I don't know if there is a God or Gods. Some people say there is a God, but I haven't seen any proof of the existence of a God.
OTOH, I can't say that those people are wrong. They believe that the existence of God has been proven to them. They say they just 'know'. Okay, but it still hasn't been proven to me.
Agnostic = Fence Sitter - that's what I am on the issue.
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:50 am
. said: Wait till god tells you he hates fags.
http://www.godhatesfags.com/
I'm confused. Why would that bother me?
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:51 am
. said: No, you can truly not know. What if someone asked you if you believed if a discarded Furby was buried at a certain spot on earth, some spot in the Sahara desert that you did not have the means to get to.
I can say:
"I don't know if there's a furby there, but I believe it exists."
or
"I don't know if there's a furby there, and I don't believe it really exists."
What it comes down to is that belief is basically pointless. A screaming madman believes he is king of the world. Little kids believe in Santa Clause. Julia Roberts believes she can act.
Knowing whether any of those things are true is a completely separate (and IMO more important) matter.
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:52 am
. said: No, you can truly not know. What if someone asked you if you believed if a discarded Furby was buried at a certain spot on earth, some spot in the Sahara desert that you did not have the means to get to.
You'd say "no." Because you don't have that belief.
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:52 am
Quence said: I don't know if there is a God or Gods. Some people say there is a God, but I haven't seen any proof of the existence of a God.
OTOH, I can't say that those people are wrong. They believe that the existence of God has been proven to them. They say they just 'know'. Okay, but it still hasn't been proven to me.
Agnostic = Fence Sitter - that's what I am on the issue.
So you're an agnostic atheist.
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:56 am
The fool says in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;
there is no one who does good.
- psalm 14:1
if you don't believe in god, then you are a fool. period.
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:56 am
toast said: I can say:
"I don't know if there's a furby there, but I believe it exists."
or
"I don't know if there's a furby there, and I don't believe it really exists."
Either of those answers would not be very logical. Why would you believe either way, you'd have no reason to have a belief. either way.
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:57 am
. said: Either of those answers would not be very logical. Why would you believe either way, you'd have no reason to have a belief. either way.
Exactly.
Belief is bullshit. A completely subjective self-serving mechanism based on knowledge gained from experience. It is completely meaningless to anyone but yourself.
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Posted 6/30/2010 1:59 am
Doesn't matter if you are a theist or atheist you are always an agnostic too
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