Zathrus2 said:

Direct quote from Milton Friedman.

"Look, for example, at the obvious, immediate, practical example of illegal Mexican immigration. Now, that Mexican immigration, over the border, is a good thing. It’s a good thing for the illegal immigrants. It’s a good thing for the United States. It’s a good thing for the citizens of the country. But, it’s only good so long as its illegal."

So much for Friedman supporting your open borders nonsense.

Zathrus2 said:

Direct quote from Milton Friedman.

"Look, for example, at the obvious, immediate, practical example of illegal Mexican immigration. Now, that Mexican immigration, over the border, is a good thing. It’s a good thing for the illegal immigrants. It’s a good thing for the United States. It’s a good thing for the citizens of the country. But, it’s only good so long as its illegal."

Direct quote from me:

Give it up Zathrus, you fucking moron.

It's already been answered in this thread. I don't have to go into the twisted logic involved.

The argument is about mobility of labor, and the efficient market. Friedman is saying that if they remain illegal, then it's cheaper for employers to hire them, which is what the whole argument is about - the bottom line in goods and services.

. said:

Direct quote from me:

Give it up Zathrus, you fucking moron.

It's already been answered in this thread. I don't have to go into the twisted logic involved.

The argument is about mobility of labor, and the efficient market. Friedman is saying that if they remain illegal, then it's cheaper for employers to hire them, which is what the whole argument is about - the bottom line in goods and services.

I've said that twice now. He's just not smart enough to understand it.

. said:

I've said that twice now. He's just not smart enough to understand it.

. said:

So much for Friedman supporting your open borders nonsense.

. said:

Direct quote from me:

Give it up Zathrus, you fucking moron.

It's already been answered in this thread. I don't have to go into the twisted logic involved.

The argument is about mobility of labor, and the efficient market. Friedman is saying that if they remain illegal, then it's cheaper for employers to hire them, which is what the whole argument is about - the bottom line in goods and services.

Zathrus2 said:

The concept of open borders does not mean a mexican coming over the border automatically made a citizen. The idea is to allow capital to move freely in a free economy. Labor, is, of course, a form of capital.

Zathrus2 said:

The concept of open borders does not mean a mexican coming over the border automatically made a citizen. The idea is to allow capital to move freely in a free economy. Labor, is, of course, a form of capital.

No, labor is opposed to capital. Read up on your Marxist theory.

Emma Goldman!
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sandman said:

Zathrus2 said:

The concept of open borders does not mean a mexican coming over the border automatically made a citizen. The idea is to allow capital to move freely in a free economy. Labor, is, of course, a form of capital.

Yet the labor flows into the country and the real money made is wired right back to Mexico. The labor costs the citizens more money than the labor contributes in reduced costs. Only the owners of the corporations enjoy the increased profits from these reduced costs.

We might as well be shipping out a brick of gold for every mexican that crosses the border.

Oh no, another moron joins the thread.

Well at least they both have one thing in common.

I luv to read Marcus Aurelius!
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. said:

Oh no, another moron joins the thread.

Well at least they both have one thing in common.

I luv to read Marcus Aurelius!
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sandman said:

"instead of debating the actual merits of their comment, I'll call them a moron instead and insist that they read too many books"

. said:

sandman said:

"instead of debating the actual merits of their comment, I'll call them a moron instead and insist that they read too many books"

I'm not insisting Zathrus reads too may books. I'm saying he doesn't know how to read.

P.S. Marcus Aurelius is read by high school students.

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I'm not insisting Zathrus reads too many books. I'm saying he doesn't know how to read.

. said:

I'm not insisting Zathrus reads too may books. I'm saying he doesn't know how to read.

P.S. Marcus Aurelius is read by high school students.

sandman said:

And his ramblings can be read in two nights. The fact that you have OCD'd about that book being an example of intellectualism points to a fatal weakness of yours.

Oh STFU, Sean.

. said:

Oh STFU, Sean.

sandman said:

You have a child's intelligence.

stick with hot salty loads, son
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. said:

stick with hot salty loads, son
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. said:

No, labor is opposed to capital. Read up on your Marxist theory.

Emma Goldman!
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. said:

Zathrus is certainly the most entertaining troll on F2, you've got to admit. No one reasons like this for real.

Zathrus2 said:

. said:

No, labor is opposed to capital. Read up on your Marxist theory.

Emma Goldman!
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So you're a Marxist, and so oppose open borders. I can respect that.