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 Author Topic: Marriage is a scam. I went to the supermarket, and 99% of married women over 40 looked like shit
Katalyst
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Shiny New Kid said:No matter her initial expectations, the power given to a woman over a man by the family court system means that she'd have to be a saint not to take advantage of it.

Not sure how many women out there are saints, but advising men to find and marry saints isn't very practical advice for the population at large



I don't think you need to be a saint to not take advantage of your family by fucking them over in the courts.

Maybe that's just me, though.
sandman
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Shiny New Kid said:No matter her initial expectations, the power given to a woman over a man by the family court system means that she'd have to be a saint not to take advantage of it.

Not sure how many women out there are saints, but advising men to find and marry saints isn't very practical advice for the population at large



:notworthy:
sandman
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Katalyst said:I don't think you need to be a saint to not take advantage of your family by fucking them over in the courts.

Maybe that's just me, though.



Katalyst, you have a bargain lifestyle in Toronto and ShinyNewKid has an affluent lifestyle in Bangkok. Bargain meaning that you control expenses well and SNK has a real problem with it.
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Katalyst said:I don't think you need to be a saint to not take advantage of your family by fucking them over in the courts.

Maybe that's just me, though.


It is just you. I would not if the roles were reversed but a lot of people would and do. And anyway, by the time a divorce happens a woman may not really feel the man is part of her family because of lingering resentments. Or the turmoil of the process of divorce. Or she could revise her opinion of him downward to convince herself that she made the right decision. Or her lawyer or friends could plant all kinds of bad ideas in her head.
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Katalyst said:I said to marry a woman with realistic expectations.


There are not enough of those. Strong cultural forces encourage most women to have unrealistic expectations.
Katalyst
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sandman said:Katalyst, you have a bargain lifestyle in Toronto and ShinyNewKid has an affluent lifestyle in Bangkok. Bargain meaning that you control expenses well and SNK has a real problem with it.



Let's say that you have an elderly relative who's dying in your care. An opportunity comes up where you can screw them over in the court system and become wealthy if you do so. The law in question gives you an advantage over that relative.

What SNK is saying is that if you were female, he would expect you to do this.
Katalyst
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. said:It is just you. I would not if the roles were reversed but a lot of people would and do. And anyway, by the time a divorce happens a woman may not really feel the man is part of her family because of lingering resentments. Or the turmoil of the process of divorce. Or she could revise her opinion of him downward to convince herself that she made the right decision. Or her lawyer or friends could plant all kinds of bad ideas in her head.



This makes no sense. You're saying the turmoil of a divorce would lead a woman to divorce. Or that a divorce lawyer might convince her to get a divorce - but why would she be talking to one before making that decision?

Question - let's say the roles were reversed and men had the upper hand in divorce courts. Would you expect men to initiate divorces for selfish, financial gain?
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Katalyst said:
What SNK is saying is that if you were female, he would expect you to do this.


Well don't they? A jilted lover is not in the same state of mind as someone who's taking care of an elder relative.
Shiny New Kid
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. said:
Katalyst said:
What SNK is saying is that if you were female, he would expect you to do this.


Well don't they? A jilted lover is not in the same state of mind as someone who's taking care of an elder relative.



Exactly, if you've reached the point of divorce the emotions are in a different place
KM.as.a.dot
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Katalyst said:

Question - let's say the roles were reversed and men had the upper hand in divorce courts. Would you expect men to initiate divorces for selfish, financial gain?



Thats a mute point...the men make all of the money.
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Katalyst said:This makes no sense. You're saying the turmoil of a divorce would lead a woman to divorce. Or that a divorce lawyer might convince her to get a divorce - but why would she be talking to one before making that decision?

Question - let's say the roles were reversed and men had the upper hand in divorce courts. Would you expect men to initiate divorces for selfish, financial gain?


Yes, of course. But I don't want to have a relationship with a man and that's not the way the laws are.
Shiny New Kid
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KM.as.a.dot said:Married men (most of them anyways) bear the responsibility of providing food, housing, and education for an entire family, hich can be quite an onerous task these days. Then they are expected to spend their free time indulging their wife and kids recreational pursuits.

The men are expected to bear the lions share of the burden, and they are also expected to drop everything to accommodate their familys whims and never speak up about it. They are the ones expected to change.

Sounds like a fantastic deal, where do I sign up?



Buddy of mine, married in California.

Been married for ten years. In that time he's earned north of 100k, while she earned 30-40k in a much less demanding job. So he paid the mortgage, all the bills etc while the money she earned she saved in a personal account.

Now he's lost his job (strongly linked to new home building so hardly his fault in California) and she's saying he's not a real man and it looks like going to a divorce.

So she'll get the house because of the two kids, one his and another from her previous husband. She's kept her own savings separate and there's not a chance in hell he'll get half in court as she'll claim she needs it for the children.

He'll be left with half the mortgage to pay (for the children) child support payments (for the children) alimony (as she wont be able to work as much and the children's lifestyle shouldn't fall) and at least half the credit card bills and probably the car payments.

And he'll be homeless, assetless, no savings remaining, lots of debt dumped on him and with huge payments which will probably be assessed on his average earnings over the last decade of over 100k while the chances of getting a job paying that are nil.

So he'll probably end up in jail. That's his reward for financial support for ten years and I know he prepared the kids for school and bed every day and made most of their dinners. Ten years of this and he'll be put in jail for it.

This is not some horror story or exceptional event, but a perfectly normal thing that can happen to a man that marries in America.

Men are insane to marry and we should all have a duty to let every man know.
KM.as.a.dot
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Shiny New Kid said:Buddy of mine, married in California.

Been married for ten years. In that time he's earned north of 100k, while she earned 30-40k in a much less demanding job. So he paid the mortgage, all the bills etc while the money she earned she saved in a personal account.

Now he's lost his job (strongly linked to new home building so hardly his fault in California) and she's saying he's not a real man and it looks like going to a divorce.

So she'll get the house because of the two kids, one his and another from her previous husband. She's kept her own savings separate and there's not a chance in hell he'll get half in court as she'll claim she needs it for the children.

He'll be left with half the mortgage to pay (for the children) child support payments (for the children) alimony (as she wont be able to work as much and the children's lifestyle shouldn't fall) and at least half the credit card bills and probably the car payments.

And he'll be homeless, assetless, no savings remaining, lots of debt dumped on him and with huge payments which will probably be assessed on his average earnings over the last decade of over 100k while the chances of getting a job paying that are nil.

So he'll probably end up in jail. That's his reward for financial support for ten years and I know he prepared the kids for school and bed every day and made most of their dinners. Ten years of this and he'll be put in jail for it.

This is not some horror story or exceptional event, but a perfectly normal thing that can happen to a man that marries in America.

Men are insane to marry and we should all have a duty to let every man know.



To be fair, it WAS his fault for getting sacked. If he had kept the checques rolling in he couldve stretched the marriage out until at least the kids were out of the house.
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Shiny New Kid said:Buddy of mine, married in California.

Been married for ten years. In that time he's earned north of 100k, while she earned 30-40k in a much less demanding job. So he paid the mortgage, all the bills etc while the money she earned she saved in a personal account.

Now he's lost his job (strongly linked to new home building so hardly his fault in California) and she's saying he's not a real man and it looks like going to a divorce.

So she'll get the house because of the two kids, one his and another from her previous husband. She's kept her own savings separate and there's not a chance in hell he'll get half in court as she'll claim she needs it for the children.

He'll be left with half the mortgage to pay (for the children) child support payments (for the children) alimony (as she wont be able to work as much and the children's lifestyle shouldn't fall) and at least half the credit card bills and probably the car payments.

And he'll be homeless, assetless, no savings remaining, lots of debt dumped on him and with huge payments which will probably be assessed on his average earnings over the last decade of over 100k while the chances of getting a job paying that are nil.

So he'll probably end up in jail. That's his reward for financial support for ten years and I know he prepared the kids for school and bed every day and made most of their dinners. Ten years of this and he'll be put in jail for it.

This is not some horror story or exceptional event, but a perfectly normal thing that can happen to a man that marries in America.

Men are insane to marry and we should all have a duty to let every man know.


You hate women!
Katalyst
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. said:Well don't they? A jilted lover is not in the same state of mind as someone who's taking care of an elder relative.



What a lot of F2's basement bois seem to fail to understand is that marriage means a LOT more to women then it does to men. They plan this shit from the age of 5. When they're kids, they dress up in wedding gowns and act out the parts. Possessing a successful, long term marriage is considered the dream goal for most women worldwide, far more than a successful career or huge bank account.

To think that the typical woman would throw away that dream just because she thinks she has an advantage in court is ridiculous.

But then, my experience is in Canada, where the divorce rate is half of that in the US.
sandman
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. said:You hate women!



These cunts rock.
Katalyst
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KM.as.a.dot said:Thats a mute point...the men make all of the money.




Dodge.
Katalyst
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. said:Yes, of course. But I don't want to have a relationship with a man and that's not the way the laws are.



Then we're arguing the same point.

Betas : "Women suck".

Me: "People suck".

Katalyst
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Shiny New Kid said:Buddy of mine, married in California.

Been married for ten years. In that time he's earned north of 100k, while she earned 30-40k in a much less demanding job. So he paid the mortgage, all the bills etc while the money she earned she saved in a personal account.



Stop here.

Why did he allow her to do this?
KM.as.a.dot
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Katalyst said:What a lot of F2's basement bois seem to fail to understand is that marriage means a LOT more to women then it does to men. They plan this shit from the age of 5. When they're kids, they dress up in wedding gowns and act out the parts. Possessing a successful, long term marriage is considered the dream goal for most women worldwide, far more than a successful career or huge bank account.

To think that the typical woman would throw away that dream just because she thinks she has an advantage in court is ridiculous.

But then, my experience is in Canada, where the divorce rate is half of that in the US.



Youre only part right. They dream about GETTING married, sure, but they havent given much thought to what comes after that.

If Canadas divorce rate is half of Americas, then why is that? Canadians are basically the same as flyover state Americans, so it isnt the people. ITS THE LAWS. American women do what they do because they can.
Shiny New Kid
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Katalyst said:Stop here.

Why did he allow her to do this?



How would he stop her?
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KM.as.a.dot said:Youre only part right. They dream about GETTING married, sure, but they havent given much thought to what comes after that.

If Canadas divorce rate is half of Americas, then why is that? Canadians are basically the same as flyover state Americans, so it isnt the people. ITS THE LAWS. American women do what they do because they can.


Exactly. For many women the meat of the fantasy ends in the same place chick flicks do - the wedding. That's really, really dangerous.
Katalyst
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KM.as.a.dot said:Youre only part right. They dream about GETTING married, sure, but they havent given much thought to what comes after that.

If Canadas divorce rate is half of Americas, then why is that? Canadians are basically the same as flyover state Americans, so it isnt the people. ITS THE LAWS. American women do what they do because they can.



To be honest I don't know what the divorce laws here in Canada are like compared to the US. I would think that us socialist-loving liberal mindset would mean the divorce laws are far more weighted toward women then men, but that's just a guess.

Kinda funny that our country, which allows gay marriage, has half the divorce rate of the "sanctity of marriage" freaks to our south that doesn't allow it.
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KM.as.a.dot said:
Katalyst said:What a lot of F2's basement bois seem to fail to understand is that marriage means a LOT more to women then it does to men. They plan this shit from the age of 5. When they're kids, they dress up in wedding gowns and act out the parts. Possessing a successful, long term marriage is considered the dream goal for most women worldwide, far more than a successful career or huge bank account.

To think that the typical woman would throw away that dream just because she thinks she has an advantage in court is ridiculous.

But then, my experience is in Canada, where the divorce rate is half of that in the US.




Katalyst is so full of shit; Canada's divorce rate is the same as the US.

Why do you people even bother talking to this stalker/troll.

He's a proven piece of shit.
Youre only part right. They dream about GETTING married, sure, but they havent given much thought to what comes after that.

If Canadas divorce rate is half of Americas, then why is that? Canadians are basically the same as flyover state Americans, so it isnt the people. ITS THE LAWS. American women do what they do because they can.

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Katalyst said:Then we're arguing the same point.

Betas : "Women suck".

Me: "People suck".


Yeah, but I think betas realize that men suck too. If you couldn't get a woman for whatever reason you might feel similarly.

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