Won't be enough to go around unless they survive the initial population crash. Even then they might not recover. Current human consumption of meats are only sustained by artificially propogating certain species. Without this constant stream of farm animals wildlife has a matter of months before they are completely consumed by human hunting in a Shtf scenario.
You're an idiot. You actually believe throngs of people who live in cities would actually make it into the countryside to hunt, nevermind actually knowing how to hunt successfully?
don't wait till you need to grow to start. its hit and miss. we've been doing this 20 years and its hit and miss sometimes. pumpkins like crazy then suddenly nothing. squash grew great forever, now we have to walk around hand pollinating. we're getting a sand wash from uphill that fucking with our corn. early frost killed the apple blossoms, etc etc.
plant diverse, and start now, even if its small.
Excellent advice, we have similar issues every year. You need the experience to be successful.
You're an idiot. You actually believe throngs of people who live in cities would actually make it into the countryside to hunt, nevermind actually knowing how to hunt successfully?
Yes. Killing animals isn't hard. With 300+ million people starving, animals won't last long. Don't be stupid.
Posted 8/20/2012 2:16 pm
I would be buying bulk items like ammunition, salt, medicines, alcohol, first aid products, condoms, etc. Things that are needed and can be traded. Even a deck of cards can be traded.
don't wait till you need to grow to start. its hit and miss. we've been doing this 20 years and its hit and miss sometimes. pumpkins like crazy then suddenly nothing. squash grew great forever, now we have to walk around hand pollinating. we're getting a sand wash from uphill that fucking with our corn. early frost killed the apple blossoms, etc etc.
plant diverse, and start now, even if its small.
Fish are an excellent fertilizer. If you have a garden, you're supposed to fetch fish guts and fish heads from your local market (they are free) and then you put some in each major planting location, like each tomato plant and each cucumber plant. They grow like mad when the roots reach that rotting stuff.
Posted 8/20/2012 3:41 pm
Britfags are especially vulnerable to food shortages since we import most of our stuff (as the Germans knew well in both world wars). I think there should be a new Dig For Victory campaign with vids on youtube. Still, people being people will probably ignore it until it's far too late. One interesting thing to note was that the britfag population was at its most healthiest right after WW2. Little fat, grease and sugar back then.
Fish are an excellent fertilizer. If you have a garden, you're supposed to fetch fish guts and fish heads from your local market (they are free) and then you put some in each major planting location, like each tomato plant and each cucumber plant. They grow like mad when the roots reach that rotting stuff.
Posted 8/20/2012 4:23 pm
If you can keep chicken for eggs that's a great source of protein. Grain is cheap and they require hardly any maintenance. Just build a sturdy pen and coop and keep them watered and fed. Keep the hens and eat the roosters.
Posted 8/20/2012 4:33 pm
Gordon Ramsay has done a few segments on his brit show, The F Word, on doing stuff in your own garden and hunting stuff like pigeons and rooks.
Fish are an excellent fertilizer. If you have a garden, you're supposed to fetch fish guts and fish heads from your local market (they are free) and then you put some in each major planting location, like each tomato plant and each cucumber plant. They grow like mad when the roots reach that rotting stuff.
Seaweed is a better fertilizer. Also a good food source. East coast varieties can be boiled. A thickener is released and could be used as a thickener. It's the stuff they put in ice cream.
You're an idiot. You actually believe throngs of people who live in cities would actually make it into the countryside to hunt, nevermind actually knowing how to hunt successfully?
Yeah, I know. They are most likely to be shot on sight trying to leave.
Seaweed is a better fertilizer. Also a good food source. East coast varieties can be boiled. A thickener is released and could be used as a thickener. It's the stuff they put in ice cream.
Havesting seaweed seems like an entire other order of agricultural knowledge. If you're going to go to those lengths, it seems better to form pens in the sea using plastic nets, and just raise fish and shrimp in the pens.
Posted 8/20/2012 4:56 pm at you people thinking it's going to devolve into a Mad Max world. It's not. Your future is in front of you in the form of South America. That's is what you are being turned into. Once they are done with you, Canada is next.
I'm seeing this also. Zoning laws are also being changed to allow people to keep a certain number of chickens on their properties. Lots of suburbanites keeping chickens and growing vegetables in their back yards.
This happened in my very expensive coastal town. People were getting citations for keeping chickens, so they changed the zoning laws. People claimed they needed the chickens because food was getting too expensive.
at you people thinking it's going to devolve into a Mad Max world. It's not. Your future is in front of you in the form of South America. That's is what you are being turned into. Once they are done with you, Canada is next.