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12/3/2012 10:03 am

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Regarding the photo on the previous page, I agree, she looks great -- back down to her "fight weight" as well!
12/3/2012 9:58 am

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12/3/2012 9:52 am

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The reel superjerk said:No post for two days. Is this thread finally dead? Its about time



I've been checking in from time to time although I haven't posted in ages. Nice to see some of the old guard still on here. Hello everybody.
11/12/2011 2:56 am

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Real Masked Truth said:
nine said:My dad and his brothers served in WWII but my mom grew up over there in Nazi occupied Greece as a little girl. In Saving Private Ryan, when the soldier pulls that little French girl away from her parents and away from the half-destroyed house, in the scene with the sniper showdown, my mom cried and said, "That little girl was me." I took them to see it in the theater. It's the last film either of them saw in a theater. I lost my dad in 2006 and my mom in 2008. I cared for them over seventy hours a week for nearly four years before they died. They deserved every minute of it.

Happy Veterans Day, Real Masked Truth. Thanks for your service.

Thanks Nine and sorry to hear about your parents for your a great son and they are watching over you and that movie was so powerful and realistic for the beach landing those sounds of gun fire really takes me back have a great night



Taking care of your parents 70 hours a week for nearly four years may not be as glamorous as charging a machine gun nest, but it's certainly herculean in its own right. Kudos to both of you!
11/12/2011 2:50 am

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RealEuropeanElitist said:
The Real Tellguy said:I'm a professional musician/educator.



Interesting! what kind of music?



Rock/pop and I teach guitar. Sorry about the delay answering, this thread really zips along!
11/10/2011 4:28 am

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nine said:Okay. So... In here... we've got...

1. A psychologist/academic analyzing everyone.
2. An ex special ops veteran with 10 years in "hot zones" who now develops video games or something?
3. A guy from Austria who likes talking philosophy.
4. A martial arts wiz kid with a couple college degess (me).
5. A frustrated co-worker of Lara Logan.
6. A guy who... impregnates animals?

Who else is in here? Anybody from NASA?



I'm a professional musician/educator. Are we finally all letting our hair down with bios and photos? Is this going to lead up to the yearly Lara Logan convention suggestion I mentioned a while back?

Btw, who's the frustrated co-worker of Lara Logan? Sounds troll-ly to me!

11/8/2011 7:09 am

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Oh, I forgot to mention Lara telling SJ she reads the blogs about her. I thought that was a hoot! Maybe we should clean up our act on here a little...!
11/8/2011 7:06 am

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Besides the conversation with Lara, I particularly enjoyed the comments about the audience: bored professors and dumb journalism students who didn't know who Lara was and asked dumb questions. I'm familiar with this age group and, incidentally, they are the ones who will one day inherit the reins of not only journalism but this country. Fucking frightening! In light of this report, it's not unlikely that Lara will become a sort of elder stateswoman of journalism before too long.
11/8/2011 6:53 am

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the real superjerk said:I didn't ask, were you raped in the biblical sense. But my sense after meeting her is that it happened just like she said. I think she was brutally fisted, pawed, grouped, pinched. While it is possible someone tried to have sex with her I truly think, after meeting her, that she would have said so if it had happened. she would have said "I was raped repeatedly." I truly think if anyone has the balls to say that to the world and hold their head up high it is her. She is brazen and fiery and wears her weaknesses like an armor.



Nice job, SJ! That's the most action we've had on here since the video investigations many moons ago. The character insights you've gotten from speaking to her one-on-one are priceless. Go Lara!
9/26/2011 2:24 am

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Oh, and dot too. Don't wanna forget anyone.
9/26/2011 2:23 am

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i said:.



I think "i" makes a good point.
9/12/2011 4:25 am

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nine said:Dude, come on...

The love triangle was tabloid bullshit. She'd been separated from her husband for a year or two because he couldn't deal with her job and Joe Burkett (her current husband) had been separated for over a year from a wife who couldn't deal with his job. Those marriages were over. That Austrailian dude was just a fling before she met Joe Butkett and the supposed fist fight between the two never actually happened. She never dated any of these guys at the same time. None of this makes her "tawdry" -- not more than over half of America (50% divorce rate), anyway. Quit trying to figure out ways to downgrade and degrade her in your mind so you don't feel so guilty masturbating to her rape... or whatever sick game you're playing. She's not a superhero but she's a decent person and she does a good job. It wasn't karma. She didn't deserve what happened to her. Bad things happen to good people. Relax.



Nine, I've praised and expressed support for Lara many times on this thread so I can point out whatever viewpoint I please. The Logan drama (and I don't give a fuck if it was a love triangle or not) was mentioned on network TV, not the tabloids unless you, like me, consider network TV leaning more and more toward tabloid news. Also, what I masturbate to or why is my business.
9/12/2011 2:03 am

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(Continued from above)

I'll concede that she's stuck her neck out more than most media women but certainly not more than any other war reporter. Also, all this talk of "such people are protected" (I guess not!) and "highest order" to me sounds uncomfortably close to elitism -- you know, the double standard of the "haves" and "have nots." And as we know, every so often the "have nots" arm themselves and take to the streets. As for interviewing the president, it's her job, not social hob-knobbing. If she didn't do it, someone else would and both would amount to nothing more than an ass-licking for the president because these days the American media is supporting a certain agenda rather than honestly reporting the news, let alone seeking the truth.

9/12/2011 2:03 am

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RealEuropeanElitist said:No you miss the point. Although many other women suffered sex crimes and even gang rapes (peace corps officers) what happened to her was highly unusual because:

1. She is a VERY high ranking very public journalist in this regard. I don´t want to diss any other journalist but she is a carreer Journalist of the highest order. To say the least: She was meant for great things (in the future) What happened to her normally doesn´t happen to such people because they are protected. I mean when you interview presidents and you are getting called by presidents after your assault it means you are somebody special

2. Her public image is a mixture of ballsyness and sexual attraction. But this sexual attraction of hers got attacked by the assault in Tahir. It makes a complicated mess out of her public image. Again: Normally such things don´t happen to people like her because they are kinda protected after a certain status. She was not. "Sticking her tits" (its good that she is able to do that again after the assault) out in her award speeches is exactly what she is: The brave skilled soldiers journalist with tremendous sex appeal. That is an image that was very important for her and her carreer. And now it is on the brink of destruction.

These are complicated messy paradoxa that are not easily sort out. Because there were absolutely NO plans how to deal with something like that when it happened to her or someone of likewise public image/status it left the people bewildered and irritated. It´s like Queen Rania of Jordan gets raped and all that and we would feel really strange about it somehow.



I precisely get the point. It's on every page of this thread -- we all love Lara Logan because she's a heroic and great journalist, although I had never heard of her until her tawdry love triangle nonsense in Iraq(?) and her sexual assault in T square, neither one of which has anything to do with journalistic skill. The reality is she's just another in a long line of attractive women reporters that networks keep trotting out for no other reason than eye candy.

9/11/2011 4:27 am

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bhadkhat said:It looks like another attack occurred in Egypt - one that very nearly was identical to what happened to Logan. http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/09/10/egypt.journalists.targeted/

"A growing crowd surrounded Amer and her colleagues, as they tried to leave the scene.

Mohamed Fadel Fahmy, a producer working for CNN, rushed to help escort Amer through the angry crowd. But suddenly the two reporters were pinned against the railing of an overpass by young men who were accusing Amer of being an Israeli spy.

Yelling "I'm Egyptian," Fahmy managed to pull Amer another 10 meters down the road, until the pressure from the mob overwhelmed the pair.

Amer screamed as she and Fahmy were knocked to the ground and the crowd started to trample them.

Other CNN journalists tried to reach in to help, but were pushed back by a wall of angry men.

Fahmy lay on top of Amer, shielding her with his body.

"I was thinking, how powerless I was because there was no police to save us," Fahmy said. "I was worried that they were going to rape her."



We need to send a couple of tank brigades over there. They'll be zipping up their pants real quick...
9/11/2011 4:23 am

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. said:You almost sounded credible until you got to the part about penis in ass and sperm down throat. It sound like your having a porn fantasy yourself. I doubt penis in ass could be any worse than a FIST. What is all this crap about her having to tell the story or CBS silencing her from telling the whole story. I doubt the reporter who called CBS knew everything that happened. As a CBS exec. Put it, only lara knows what happened during separation. If she wanted to lie, she would have said less than she did. If she felt she needed to tell more, CBS can’t stop her. She could go to Charlie Rose and tell her story.



Than a FIST no, but worse than fingers, size does matter.

Violated, emotionally and physically injured and in hospital trying to decide what to say or do - tough call for her.

If she had wanted to lie she would have said less - that's a given. So she didn't want to lie but then who stopped her telling more?

Don’t doubt that CBS has a hell of a lot of leverage on her and is using that leverage to protect their 'property'

Yes she could go on Charlie Rose and tell ALL but then we would all just be watching her commit professional suicide, who wants that?



I disagree. Lots of women have gone public with their sexual assaults (in court, the written word, broadcast media, etc.) and not have their lives ruined. I don't understand this lofty new standard with Lara Logan in which we get a vague, diluted version and no more. I also don't understand all the awards and accolades about her bravery, courage and strength. Sorry Lara, you've only been a victim and it doesn't take strength and bravery to be a victim. The strength and bravery part is what you do after you've been a victim. For example, "YES, I WAS RAPED!' or "NO, I WAS NOT RAPED SO STOP FUCKING ASKING ME ABOUT IT AND SHUT DOWN THAT MORONIC THREAD THAT KEEPS TALKING ABOUT ME!"

Sorry again, Lara, dressing up and proudly sticking your tits out at awards ceremonies that reward your insipid, tow-the-line behavior while real heroic, everyday women honestly talk about their ordeals doesn't cut it in my book!

9/9/2011 2:53 am

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Here's the You Tube link for Logan's acceptance speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKxrhze8-Ck

She does say a few things that are, well, "loaded." In the very beginning the "joke" someone stated here was her graciously complimenting Dick something, the event host "...follow Dick". Another comment was "...everybody screws you sooner or later in this business." Then she acknowledges all the colleagues that helped her "...that person lying in Tahrir Square." Anyway, check it out, it's a fairly short, off-the-cuff speech that perks up your ears every so often.
9/8/2011 6:52 am

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To extrapolate this further, if governments (and I'm referring to the U.S and Western Europe, not the fuck-tard totalitarian countries who I won't mention by name) are telling people to "shut the fuck up or else" than we don't really live in free democracies anymore, do we? They ram a shit-load of porn, alcohol, drugs and various other distractions down our throats but what they don't want us to know, we're not going to find out.
9/8/2011 6:41 am

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I find it interesting how everyone who has either claimed to be a witness or has claimed to see a video all seemed to have literally evaporated -- and I remember this happening before this thread even started up. Are we to believe that everything said about the event was made up by trolls and perverts? If that's the case, then there's a valid case to be made for the incident not having occurred at all. And by case I mean, if this ever made it into a court it would be thrown out for lack of evidence. Aside from Lara Logan's word, at this point there's no physical evidence that anything happened at all.
9/8/2011 6:28 am

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RealEuropeanElitist said:
MootPoint said:There was much discussion about this earlier in the thread. There are three viewpoints: no eyewitnesses because people know it was the secret police that committed the act and they are afraid to speak out; no eyewitnesses because she was somehow taken to "a quiet spot" on the square and attacked there and all who saw it were participants; and finally, no eyewitnesses because the bulk of the mob surrounding her prevented anyone else from seeing what was happening even if they could hear her screaming. The shielding by the bulk of the mob is the most plausible, in my opinion. In that case other people in the vicinity at the square are aware that something is happening but they don't know the details and won't connect the incident to Logan if asked later on.



Very well analysed. Nuff said.



I take it at this point we're putting little or no stock in Logan Full Reports 1 & 2?
9/7/2011 2:41 am

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the real superjerk said:Still nothing after all this time. I have scoured the net. Gone to chat rooms. Sent emails. Others including Truthseeker and Nine have gone even further with their investigations. Not one credible bit of new information has surfaced. Not one eyewitness to corroborate her story has come forward. No one and nothing has filled in the missing details in her 25-40 minute ordeal. by her own account pictures were taken at the very onset of the attack as she was stripped. We can only assume that pictures were taken the entire time, thousands of pictures from dozens of cell phones. Hundreds of camera phone armed witnesses and not one has come forward. All that exists is her official statement and interview. Even the other news agencies added nothing but a few minor details. This leaves only 2 possibilities.

1) She lied about the whole thing.
2) CBS managed a complete media blackout of this event.

How can a news agency manage to black out everything and even silence their competition? Even with the help of both governments involved how could they keep all pictures and video from reaching the web when such evidence is sought after by millions and worth millions to the right pornography distributor? If they managed this sort of tight control can fascism be far behind? Such power could destroy our democracy.



Excellent. I think this post sums it up in a nutshell. For me, as well, it's gone way beyond a few lurid photos/videos of a lone woman reporter. A real, unique brain-twister this episode is, with discrepancies that you can drive a semi truck through.
9/1/2011 12:07 am

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A recent incident of a cop in Arizona caught on hidden camera having sex on the hood of a car. Pretty graphic for mainstream media:

http://tosh.comedycentral.com/blog/2011/08/31/cop-caught-having-sex-on-car-hood/
8/28/2011 7:52 pm

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Real Masked Truth said:The reason I think that the secret police could have carried out such a plan with less then 10 minutes of planning is I have seen similar methods used and used similar methods before. If the Secret police wanted to carry out this after learning that she had landed at the airport after they told her not to return would be to have her tailed. Upon learning she was headed to Tahrir square you then dispatch some team members to tahrir square. One teams job is to watch her and get close to her. The second team would be some what close to the first team while the third team would find the best location to carry out the assualt. Third team calls leader of team two to let them know where to bring her and then wait. Team ones job would be to seperate her from her security team and assualt them and delay them so they can't see where she is taken. Team two comes up and takes the prize to location of team 3 and leaves her with them and disappears into the crowd. Team 3 carries out the attack and gets interupted before they can finish. This is one of a few different methods to do it but over all it is not that difficult to do if you know the terrain and been in the crowds the previous few nights getting intel on the protestors.



I agree, this sounds plausible. Not too sure if there would actually be a "rape squad?" How do you get on the rape squad anyway? Is there a training program or do you have to prove you have X amount of rapes under your belt? What is the pay? (A rapist can't live on raping alone!) Where do I inquire about openings? Seriously, my only "bone to pick" with the above is the word "team" which implies 5-10 guys. Are these 5-10 guys supposed to have the crowd part before them like the Red Sea or do they just beat their way through. Has anyone here ever try to move around in a big crowd? It's hard enough just to keep track of the person next to you. To me, the attack sounds more like the work of a small mob which would have enough strength in numbers to intimidate any opposition. The "team" concept COULD work but it hinges too much on everything working perfectly which usually doesn't happen in real life. Also, her own testimony supports more of a spontaneous attack-her-where-she-is kind of attack rather than her being transported somewhere.
8/27/2011 7:59 am

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RealEuropeanElitist said:
. said:Maybe Mubarek supporters hoped to pin the rape on the protestors and besmirch the revolution. Maybe the protestors actually did do it as revenge for thirty years of American support for Mubarek. Maybe Mubarek's policemen or thug supporters did it out of revenge for being forced to forfeit power to the military. Opportunist wilding. There are many possibilities. It's hard to say.

Of course, you have to keep in mind that Hosni Mubarak had already resigned when she was attacked. They weren't hoping to use the rape to scare away journalists at that point. It was too late for them to hope to gain leverage. Mubarek was already out. That battle was already lost.



She was sexually humiliated and raped and traumatized for life and it wasn´t even part of a workable strategy. How unbelievably sad.



This blackmail theory is interesting but I'm leaning against it. It implies a significant amount of communication and coordination between quite a few people in a crowd situation that was at best disorderly and at worst chaotic. I'm still leaning toward the "crime of opportunity" theory and, if there was any degree of planning, it was done maybe thirty minutes before when people were checking her out at her broadcast spot. I mean, she'd just arrived straight from the airport -- how would anyone know that she was even going to be there?
8/27/2011 1:36 am

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If everything on here was absolutely correct in every way it would be as interesting as a college level science book. Just my opinion, my friend. Carry on.
 

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