EU Zone is probably doomed. Just wanted to tell you all. Greece wants to vote if they accept help or committing suicide. Well. Whatever. You will see me at the local refugee camp. Maybe i will see Lara Logan after all...!
Only if the Marines had contact to the material. I believe they had contact with Lara Logan but i do not think that they have footage. But it is possible I think.
Let me be blunt: If you and i were journalists and you got raped on ASSIGNMENT for god´s sake and some other journalist loads up a video of you getting raped...man i would personally go to him and fuck him over. That is not ratio but emotion. If i let the asshole get away with this what does he do next? Filming me when i get devoured by worms in my grave after being shot on assignment? Noooo...and i think many others up to the freaking chief editor would think the same.
I think that thinking plays a much greater role than you would think.
NO. Exactly THAT they would not do! Especially the journos on the ground who were there! Especially these. Let us summarize what journos they would be: a) journos that share exactly the same fear of rape mutilation and horrible death and b) when you brag you can be pinpointed as a culprit c) you could not know how your colleagues would react to such an act (posting videos of that incident - they could rat you out or make you trouble)
That is essentially what i advocate: The journos are much more human then you all think and therefore nothing got loaded up. They are human in restraint but also human in fear and empathy. They are human in having bosses that can and would refuse such a story. They are human in that they have colleagues that could rat them out because if i would be a journo and some other guy loads a video up where one journalist got raped...man i would rat him out Masked Truth! And i would feel GOOD with doing that. It would feel right. Because it was one of us: A journo. I know journos. They would react this way 100%.
I thought the same but i do not know.I think the american government underestimates this or thinks it won´t come to this or there is some other thinking going on here. They had an official investigation going on (Hillary) Now it´s over. I think they even thought at first that it could benefit them but then they saw that it did not. But from there to actively preventing information by pressuring reporters to be silent is just too large a jump. I do not think they will directly do anything. But what i could imagine is that Hillary talked with the news bosses of ABC and CNN and CBS and felt out their reluctance to report his incident. There is hardly any need to pressure anybody if everybody just flat out states that they have NO interest to report something like this about a fellow reporter. And these 3 major networks control a huge part of the information flow in this regard. Toss in some of the strongest newspapers and the information flow is kaputt.
What my theory is doing better though is explaining why the arabs are not reporting anything. Because Al Arabija and Al Jazeera could if they wanted. So i still believe in my journalist angle and not really in the two government conspiracy theory.
Look it´s mathematics pure and simple: WHO has the resources to send reporters and journalists to egypt to search for something there? And WHO has the Will and interest to do so? Extremely few newspapers/networks.
In fact the ONLY journalists even capable of doing this kind of extensive work are WESTERN and ARAB journalists. The only journalists really interested in this are WESTERN and ARAB ones...there are also the only ones who know LL. Soooo...it is clear that it´s something between WESTERN and ARAB journalists. The WESTERN journalists have this gentleman´s agreement of their own. The ARAB ones do hold themselves back because she was not killed and the details would probably hurt the arab pride or egypts image in the world. Ditto.
Believe me a professional journalist would get the information. Even in Egypt. He or she would. You know in journalist theory there is the term "Gatekeeper". The Gatekeeper analogy is thus: EVERYTHING informational passes through gates and these gates have keepers...they open doors they shut down doors. And the journalists are these gatekeepers. THEY control the information flow. If for some reason a great many journalists come to the conclusion that something is not for the public they can shut the information flow down. Now...it IS difficult to organize something like that and it would point to a ludicrous conspiracy. I do not believe that. I believe that a majority of journalists and far more important: Their bosses (the higher editors and chiefs) are rejecting material proposes or ideas. There is a kind of gentleman´s agreement going on here peppered with some real media muscle flexing (CBS IS a heavyweight not to be trifled with)
Add to that a arab journalism that is keeping its fingers from smearing Egypt and you get the perfect stew for something like what is now: NO information about details or contradictions.
No you confuse me with another troll. I am not interested in hearing any details about that anymore.
Concerning the game changing bit: Oh yes it would make a big difference believe me. Now everybody believes she was assaulted by a mob. If evidence surfaces that shows that it was somehow organized by professionals...yes that would be hard to swallow for some people. Especially concerning that the U.S. is sending MONEY to egypt. In a kind of cynical way the U.S. could have paid money for the rape. Because if it was some sort of police/military they are possibly paid by the U.S. money. Especially professional torturers in the military secret service.
If something like THAT comes out...i do not want to stand in the way of the tornado that will sweep through Congress.
No...it only proves my point: The journos CAN have all the details of the assault but they chose NOT TO. They are the only ones who go to Egypt and can find the people and they are not doing it because they do not want it.
Well the reasons... theoretically the U.S. could have an interest in stabilizing their ally Egypt. Such an scandal would force US foreign policy (maybe) to turn another way. That could be a reason they exert a certain influence like stopping Hillary´s investigation altogether. But i don´t think it would last for a full blown Cover up.
You say journalism is a competitive profession. But almost EVERY job is a competitive profession. And still we adhere to certain rules especially if someone of our profession is involved. A policeman will not likely unveil the rape of another policeman by thugs. It hits too close at home. A soldier doesn´t want to give away information concerning his mutilated and wheel-chaired comrade. These are all competitive jobs too.
No one has until now come with a GOOD explanation why nobody digs into this story. The government conspiracy theory is just too Orwellian to be taken seriously. So - what other theory is there?! I find that my journalist-Theory is the more flexible because it is working from the reasoning that even journalists are human and thinking like human beings even if they may be very cynical.
You all do not believe that ALL journalists are somehow steering away from reporting or digging into this matter but you all believe that one or two governments are achieving a total control over ALL streams and flows of information concerning this?
Sorry but my journalist theory is far more realistic than the big government conspiracy theory.
You are telling me journos are so shark-like they are not getting goosebumps at hearing someone of their own got raped on assignment? You are not talking about sharks here but about terminators.
Journos feel pain especially when the pain is rather close at their back.
No it doesn`t. When i say human i mean they feel it in their TESTICLES. The journos would throw their own moms under the bus because they probably hate them anyways but every journo is feeling it when he/she hears about some journo got raped on assignment. Hey. It could happen to you too you know? That´s what they are thinking.
Way to go dude. Incidentally i had also a similar hot dream about Amber Heard a while back. I am just hot for her after watching DRIVE ANGRY, AND SOON THE DARKNESS. I am just waiting to have that hot dream about Candice Swanepoel the hot south African Victoria´s Secret Model. I hope it will be as satisfying as it was in your dream!
It wasn´t this original post that did it. There was some influx of posters after that who changed the entire thread. This thread is the perfect mixture of pornographic and serious discussion. THAT is the reason it has gotten so long actually.