It has more to do with the workload believe me. Journos have too much to work and so the quality suffers. It is not so much about ethics but more about resources.
Hmmm...then let us make a thesis - anti-thesis -syn-thesis out of the whole debate:
Thesis: Two Governments did a complete cover up of the whole thing.
Anti-thesis: It was from the journalists. Governments had nothing to do with it.
Syn-thesis: Two Governments did a light cover up of the whole incident in the web and abroad latter especially the egyptian government. Journalists out of their own opinion and ethics plus pressured by their chief-editors and newsrooms and peers stayed clear of finding the footage.
You know how scientist are supposed to work? They have a thesis...let´s see...ah yes: TWO GOVERNMENTS ARE COVERING UP EVERY FOOTAGE IN THE WEB OF TAHIR THE DAY HOSNI STEPPED DOWN AFTER 23:00.
That is our hypo-thesis. Now basically we must falsificate it...proving it WRONG. Even if your most ardous strenous efforts are not toppling that thesis that this thesis must be TRUE. But we work not WITH the thesis but against it. We on the other hand try to prove the thesis with all might. We must be our own advocatii diaboli here. Look it up with Karl Popper. He was the originator of this idea.
The Hillary idea is worthwile BTW. I can imagine it was like this. She was more interested in damage control than in anything else. Surely not in doing a real investigation.
You say that because you don´t know how Journalists work. You think they are like you or me only with some camera and a block of paper in their hand ;). Journalists have training. Methods. Techniques. To get information. They are skilled workers especially the specialists in the foreign department. In fact you think of journalists as stupid unskilled elephants that just walk into a foreign scene and just trample evidence ;). In fact they are much more like bloodhounds. That is also the reason why you and I would find nothing comparable there. And yes i have a bachelor in journalism...exactly the same basic education 99% of all journalists have and i tell you: It`s only the tip of the iceberg. There is so much to learn.
Look its simple mathematics. ONLY foreign correspondents have access to any evidence in egypt. Okay. How many foreign correspondents do you have in Egypt? From CBS, ABC, CNN and a few others? A few major newspapers? Delete the europeans. Only take the americans and maybe the english. Delete the arabs. They do not seem to have ANY interest in it right now.
So: How many american and english foreign correspondents are in Egypt?
Two Dozen? Three Dozen? Including the freelancers that are working for the major few?
Three dozen journalists are easily able to come to a gentleman´s agreement. PLUS: Their bosses are even less numerous. What will the chief editor in ABC say about the LL story? He will say: PASS on it! What will CNN do? The very same. The newspapers could be a problem but since the scandal in Murdochs newspapers they are playing it super safe. And there you have it. Simple mathematics. A handful of people and only a few companies.
Kiddie porn is something completely different. It has a specific buyer base. That is what i tried to tell you with grounded opinion: There is simply no buyer base for footage of journalists getting raped or killed. There isn´t. The evidence that in seven months nothing came up supports my grounded opinion. It supports also the grounded opinion that it´s more a reluctance of journalists do not touch the damn thing if they would have found it.
Yes journalistic creed of ethics...look...if i were a journo and i would think about researching LLs story...i would feel a penis up my ass.
Do you understand what i am trying to tell you? It is about knowing: I could be next. Why the hell would i try to make a story out of that only to hear from my editor the very same thing: Hey dude you could be next too. We have a nice little assignment for you where you interview a infamous skinhead leader who throttled three grandmas in their beds. What the fuck. You can be sure that i would feel it in my guts! Violence against journalists on assignmens?! OF COURSE!
Ehem educated guess? It is a grounded opinion. Evidence: It is not out NOW after what eight nine months? And if there is evidence it is in safe journalistic hands and will not get out.
Look: The also have human ethics and values. You are thinking too much about them as warped human beings. I will not say that they aren´t assholes out there but come on you just judge them ALL as assholes.
If they have not investigated this it proves only one thing: They care and fear for their own. Even in competition. They should.
Actually i don`t read any newspapers anymore. I don´t watch Tv. And I am living in the 21th Century thank you very much. But still you are tiptoeing over the fact that you base your opinions on a warped cynic sense of humanity concerning journalists. I base my opinions on a realistic sense of humanity concerning journalists.
What does that mean? Its simple: You are a journalist. I am a journalist. A troll here is also a journalist. YOU get raped by someone on an assignment. The troll wants to load up the footage of the attack in all details.
What do you expect me to do? This is a simple question. What do you think i would do?
michael ware was on bill maher real time last night. what an odd fellow. yikes. why... man... why would anyone sleep with that guy?... i bet he was just sort of a stalker she humored for a while... no way was that serious. he's just... a goon. i'm sorry but he's just goofy.
i know, right. i'd be more embarrassed about dating that guy than anything that happend in egypt.
Ha.
You are all so mean ;(. I am sure this journalist with a crooked nose has the heart of a lion and is a distinguished and established journalist! Stop laughing please...poor Michael ;(
I just want to make sure that people understand that I am not the grammar/spelling nazi on here. I've questioned the whole, "I'm a journalist but I have horrible spelling when I email people," thing elsewhere (not to be rude -- just to express concern as to the validity of the anonymous person's claims) but I really don't care about who spells what right in these random forum posts. I don't care. The choice of the number "nine" for the hours in the rebukes written to the spelling nazi led me to speculate about whether or not people thought the troll was me (and, I know that sounds paranoid). I just wanted to cover that base. Just saying.
It IS paranoid! You are the Simon Wiesenthal on here. You HUNT the grammar/spelling nazis! Oh yes! You a grammar/spelling nazi perish the thought!
it doesn't matter how little of sleep you've had you can't
bitch at someone for doing something while doing it yourself.
It would be like calling someone's mom fat when yours is as well.
No. Compassion has criticized that the other has made GRAMMATICAL and FACTUAL errors. These are much deeper entrenched than a mere SPELLING mistake.
It is like calling someone`s mom an uneducated shallow racist and then getting the return: But your mom is fat!
PS: Ask any Editor what is worse. He will tell you spelling mistakes are common even with big companies and dozens of editors. But a grammatical mistake? This is unforgivable. Or a factual mistake: Even worse.