Actually i think her "roll" is just fine thank you very much. And leave Irene in Peace. After being your girlfriend for so long she has at least managed to seek out help and a place in the women shelter and is now free from the abusive relationship with you. Leave her alone please. And leave other women alone too please.
I never did play king of any thread least this one enough people have told me what they think of my opinion so i know better than to believe that.
Eh? Cancer is as old as time too still we analyze it with modern science. Pregnancy is as old as time but we make sense out of it now with modern thinking. When military secret service was behind that attack you can bet your ass that they knew what they inflicted on her. Being a barbarian does not mean you are not intelligent in inflicting pain.
It is NOT bullshit. It is science. Compressed theoretical models. There are tons of studies out there that prove or at least deduce that for example friends or relatives of a rape victim are severely affected by it. It is not just curiosity that propels people to write here. It is also a deep sense of hurting for what happened. I assure you 100% that Scott Pelley needed serious help and support after that interview with her. And other colleagues as well. Her husband too. Close friends...are suffering. I assure you even her enemies felt goosebumps running over their backs. There are no enemies in foxholes when the dogs bark outside. That is not me speaking but thousands of psychologists and psychiatrists.
The problem i have with some of your writing is that you believe we are all soulless monsters here and i tell you we are not. Not because there is someone judging with authority that categorizes us as righteous i could not be less interested in THAT.
Do not let yourself be sold too cheaply. There are people who want to regard this board just being full of Nazis and perverts. To some extent that is true. But it is not everything there is to say about it.
Actually that is factually incorrect. In middle Europe - Germany, Austria and the like - no one ever heard of Lara Logan. News coverage was almost nil. Sparked world wide interest? NO. But it was a prevalent topic in the USA and in GB and that is all you really need.
And perverse sickness or mere curiosity does not explain everything here. That is almost a illegitimate simplification of the people here. There are also people who want to understand more about the incident to suffer with her. There are people here who are obviously traumatized - they are angry and hate at her attackers even to the point where they are ranting. There are people here that have come to truly like her and what she represents. And so on. There are and there were even women here with very complex reasons altogether.
You categorize people so easily in so broad rational ways. The interview was a train accident made by people who were traumatized and shocked to the core about what happened to her. They did not know how to deal with it. There was no Plan B. The support was already there but the helpers and supporters themselves needed support and help (that was not provided that well) and in that light you should see the interview. It was more a "what the fuck...what should...what has happened...how could they do this?...this is Egypt not Somalia! Oh my god...!" Situation all the way. They were rattled.
News are buzzing that the confirmed 71 dead during the soccer match were victims of a plan hatched by the Egyptian military authorities to either a) heighten the chaos in Egypt and thus legitimate the still military dominated rule or b) to avenge themselves on the soccer club "Ultra" that played a big role in the Tahrir Protests.
It is NOT that. Nobody is picking on you. It is just very important i think to talk about this. Look...no girl or woman is going to tell the truth when we do not meet them halfway. If we see them as somehow damaged and not valuable anymore after a rape we make a bad situation into a catastrophe. That is important stuff to remember for all of us when we someday get into such a situation with our wives/girlfriends.
Yeah. Honestly Pee on my Leg that is not good thinking like this. I know you see it from a sexual side but still...when your wife/girlfriend got raped it is your DUTY as a boyfriend/husband to stand by her. That is NOT negotiable. To see her in some way as a willing partner of the rapist...that is not good at all.
Hypothetically speaking...when a girl gets threatened with a knife to force her into oral penetration (blowjob) then her husband should not obsess about the sexual part. I mean it is okay to ALSO include the sexual part in your thinking. But to only obsess about that! That is not only unfair to the woman but also unhealthy and potentially damaging not only for the relationship but also for the personal development of the man.