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4/13/2012 9:49 am

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nine said:Apples and oranges. If I shot a video of Trump from across the Super Bowl stadium and he had no clue who shot it and I kept posting it online, how the hell would he even know who to offer money? It could be any of thousands of people that shot that video. Short of the idea to put an ad in the paper offering a reward, if I were careful and I wasn't caught on camera myself as I made the initial recording, he'd be powerless.

When I was young, I remember some rich guy being rude to me and asking me, "Don't you know who I am!?" I told him off and cussed hm out something good, replying that it didn't matter who he was so long as he didn't know who I was. He asked, "What's your name!?" I flipped him the bird and walked away.



That was wise of you not giving him your name. But you know...i mean if he would have been serious. A real psychopath. There could have been ways to find you Nine. But you got lucky because he was too bored or stupid or lazy or all three of it together. There are people you just hire, Nine. You slip them money and let them do their job. Most of the things private detectives do is miraculous for most people.

PS: IN an age where every dick has a smartphone one could just picturesnap you. And then your whole woes would start. I mean you do not even need names or addresses. Not with minicomputers shooting HD pics out of their arse.
4/13/2012 7:50 am

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Mavis Beacon said:LARA LOGAN WANTED IT!



SHUT UP INBRED IDIOT.
4/13/2012 7:45 am

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nine said:I really think you're giving them too much credit. What are they going to do about it incognito? Interview the entire population of Cairo until they stumble onto one of the few people who witnessed or participated in the attack that isn't hostile toward America? What are they going to do publicly? Ask for the video on al jazeera? It would be extremely hard to find this evidence at this time under current conditions even for CBS, even for the U.S. government.



There is much confusion about how Journos work. Contrary to the beliefs of many civilians Journos have training in how to obtain information. They do not stumble like idiots around asking the next queer looking one for some info. They have methods. They have techniques. They work systematically. And like many others they work in teams and have contacts and they exchange information regularly. It is not just CBS but every Journo out there. And i do not think they search for it NOW. They did it one year ago...until maybe eight or six months ago. They found enough. Ditto CIA and certain other american outlets. They kinda got enough material in the first few weeks after it happened.
4/13/2012 7:22 am

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nine on phone said:If journalists are offering cash rewards for evidence in Cairo, it's certainly not getting them anywhere or we'd have heard about it. No gentleman's agreement is going to compare with breaking that story even, apparently, if you're Marie Colvin. Maybe we should pay for an add in the Cairo newspaper ourselves. SWM seeking footage of blond rape victim.



No, they are not doing it officially. Why? It would look very bad on the homefront, it would alert the authorities in Egypt that the thing is exploding in their faces and therefore consequences for Journos would be ensured. And even hardy one eyed Marie Colvins have to adhere to some morals or ethics concerning their fellow journo. There is some agreement in place. And it is a strong agreement. More so it is a agreement between REAL Journos. JOurnos in the field who have access to material because they do the real digging investigative work. No one could give a rats ass about some pseudo Journo like Mad Rabid Debbie. She is not in the loop. The other REAL journos ARE.

The add in the Cairo newspaper would not be publicized because no editor would touch that. Or he/she would find themselves in a cell in the department of Egyptian military secret service where they would probably cut off the genitals of him/her.
4/13/2012 7:17 am

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Cause I Can said:Is it just me or an I talking in a Foreign Language Here? CIA to get footage from Private Phones! People know she was Raped people know she was the US people know it was the Government and the Secret Police and they are just giving footage that will Ultimately get them hurt or killed by the Secret Police. The Secret Police did it and normal Egyptians are going to give Evidence to Convict people that Rape a well know reporter on Purpose and they are just going to give up evidence to a stranger!



Perhaps that even took place already. Some journo got to see something on a cellphone. But Journo could not take it with her/him or delete it. Why is it so far fetched for you to believe that someone could get this info? Lara herself said there were many people taking pictures and video. I mean come on.
4/13/2012 7:15 am

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nine on phone said:No amount of power or influence matters when nobody knows who has these vidoes. Donald Trump is powerful but I could give a shit because he doesn't know my name or do anything that directly effects me in any way.



Nine...when Donald Trump WANTS to know who NINE is on the board and he would seriously invest some cash he would get the info.

How do you obtain something in Kairo? You ask around. Go to your contacts. Exchange your money.

Then you will get everything. Come on. You know i am right. Journos and CIA Agents know that one by sleep.
4/12/2012 9:54 pm

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Cause I Can said:Tell me what is on my cell phone right now? Where is my cell phone? Do I have it in my pocket or is it home? Ok now I have Lara's footage on my phone. What crime did I commit? What right do you have to ask me what is on my phone? Can you take my phone from me and what grounds do you have to look at or in my Phone? It is private, and what is on my phone is For my eyes Only! Do you have a search Warrant to look in my phone? And this is Egypt in the Middle of a Government Over Throw and you know who has what on the personal Phone? I have a Timeshare Condo on Mars for 200.00 a week want to rent it?......PLEASE!



Come on dont be stupid. Journalist just has to ask around in Kairo. Some people will lead me to others who have footage of the attack on the cellphone. Then i just have to waddle cash into their faces.

These are journos. They would even have other methods in obtaining stuff. Ditto CIA Agents.
4/12/2012 9:41 pm

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Cause I Can said:OK Right in the beginning of the Full Report II the first thing said that they SMASHED THE CAMERA! Beat the CAMERA MAN Wisked her away before they could stop them. How does CBS have the FOOTAGE? Let's try Common Sense!



Footage from a cellphone. Footage from another camera. Provided by some other journalists that found it somewhere in Kairo. There is still much we do not know. But seriously...do you believe a major network with dozens of Arabian speaking journalists in Kairo with access to the resources of other networks has problems locating some of the cellphone images and movies? Get real. They only needed to snap with their fingers.
4/12/2012 6:30 pm

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. said:President Obama also Hillary Clinton probably have seen the entire rape footage. Seeing what they saw, they order a top priority cover-up to try and keep the public from viewing a devastating brutal rape of an American figure and citizen. In order to make this attack disappear the Gov't had know what would appear and it probably made them sick to their stomach.



I believe maybe Clinton has seen something. Obama must have been informed, but that would be it.
4/12/2012 6:28 pm

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Real Masked Truth said:I would Guess CBS would never mention that they have footage to the attack because then the pressure for them to release it would become too great. Like saying you have Justin Beibers home phone number in a crowd of little girls. Only bad things will happen if that info is out there.



No kidding. But again: LOGIC and THINKING dictates that they have material 100%. Only they will not say it. They want to have the material but not be pressured by its existence.
4/12/2012 6:25 pm

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Real Masked Truth said:Yes But the Temoris blog was a crappy political statement about Lara overreacting and all that happened was her ass was pinched. The Fat kid video was posted Feb 16 which preceeds all the videos and posts. First announced on the 15th so in one day this person or persons came up with this?



It IS possible. I still believe you do not grasp yet the imagination and dedication of horny porn writers. But okay i admit it: It is KINDA tight i mean one day. It feels a bit off. But you know you can get a pretty detailed rape porn story from a good writer in one day EASY. It is not that difficult.
4/12/2012 6:21 pm

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nine said:I mean, why would they not have mentioned having obtained footage when they aired her interview? CBS doesn't have footage. The government probably doesn't have footage.



1. Because when they acknowledge having obtained footage a can of worms is opened. They would be able to be pressured by the public, by law enforcement agencies, by individuals. I also would be very wary of saying CBS does not have any footage. Remember we are speaking of a huge giant network with lots of pressuring power and connections to thousands of die hard digging investigative journalists all over the world. When they want something like a footage that they know is out there...they are getting it. They have the people for that kind of digging. I mean even now there are countless foreign western journalists in Egypt with crowds of local fixers speaking basic arabic as well as Ward or Logan herself or even better. Shit even we in Austria have one half Egypt Half German Journalist that provided excellent exclusive commentaries and footage from Egypt during the revolution. When a major american network wants footage from that attack and this attack was recorded on cellphones and cameras they are going to get it. Not all of the material probably. But enough to have serious evidence for themselves.

2. The government probably has way MORE than CBS. When CBS has some material the government (FBI, CIA and Secretary of State) is going to have even more. Worse yet, they would be able to make more out of the information. When for example some attackers of Lara are captured on some material the good folks at the various intelligence agencies would probably immediately pinpoint the men as Egyptian military service because they would KNOW THESE MEN WELL.

But they would rather rip their hearts out before they would tell anybody. CBS is still reeling from the shock having their top foreign correspondent humiliated in that manner. The Government and its agencies are wary because the backlash could kill their relationship to the trusted ally Egypt...at least they still cling to that illusion until the Brotherhood and the Salafists crush it to smithereens.




4/12/2012 5:57 pm

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nine said:The Temoris blog posts pre-date the the Full Report video and you can find a lot of similarities to her story in the comments written by myself and several others. Obviously, we didn't have any inside information. It's possible to be fairly accurate when assessing a situation like this without having access to the full details.



Yes. I mean one is oftentimes surprised at how closely fantasy and reality can be but that is hardly a new insight.
4/12/2012 5:18 pm

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Cause I Can said:Really? And how do you know for sure? Did you read this somewhere? That an Opinion or Verifiable Fact? Ever Hear about the Foreign Intelligence Committee? International Terrorism Sub Committee? They ask for something they get It!



Probably. But...these are very few people. And if they leak too much it could blow into their faces. I would not worry about it too much. I think Lara Knows that too. There is not much to be done about it but to ensure it does not get out into the mainstream.
4/12/2012 5:00 pm

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Real Masked Truth said:I agree but with what they had to go on from the start how could they get as close to the story Lara released 4 months later with out something other then brutal sustained assualt. Nothing that first came out mentions enough really to make a fantasy that closely matchs that which was 4 months later handed to the public and other reports.



Masked Truth...the imagination of people is vast as you very well know. There are people writing rape stories in certain forums that are really well written in style and substance. I mean honestly...i am not surprised that there are these fake reports. What i want to say is that most of these people do not need ANYTHING for their fantasies. Probably the news that Lara Logan was stripped and groped and sustained sexual assault was enough for them to get their fantasy machines to work. They could make a scenario for The incident in Cairo besides having breakfast. That is not hard at all.

4/12/2012 4:51 pm

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Cause I Can said:And then she has to go to all these meeting and dinners at the White House, and she walks into the room and all know what happened and Lara has to wonder whom in the room seen the Footage? You seen all the people in the Situation Room when Bin Ladin was killed, so does one think the Video Footage of Lara was not seen by the same people?



Actually very few people have seen the exact nature of bin laden after he was killed. Very few politicans.

I can imagine that if Footage exists it would be handled with care and not shown to everybody.
4/12/2012 12:52 pm

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Real Masked Truth said:Also remember that very little was given out days and even weeks after the attack so How could these three clips be so close to Lara Logans given information? Yes it could have been a couple of guys setting around trying to come up with a good fantasy to hoax everyone but to get that close on information and with little to nothing to go other then the sustained assualt that was reported by all the press. Very weird indeed?



Well i think when these people imagined the worst case scenario...and this scenario was kinda met...in a way then what would be imagined would eerily be true albeit as a coincidence. It does not postulate that these people really had evidence or good eyewitness accounts.

I mean it is the same with a Shark Attack. When i hear it was "very bad" i imagine immediately ripped limbs and shredded body parts and in 99% of cases it would be like this. But it does not mean that i seriously have evidence from the coroner or that i spoke to an eyewitness or that i partook from the knowledge of friends and family members of the victim.

Too many people make the quick assumption that similarities between narrative constructs immediately lead to one side influencing the other. But that is rash and should be avoided to get to the truth.
4/12/2012 12:48 pm

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Real Masked Truth said:interesting article I found
http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2011/04/lara_logan_rape_vs_sexual_assa.php



The article very well summarized the whole problem i think.
4/12/2012 7:07 am

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. said:You people think way too much about rape.



Maybe. I dunno. You know a while ago...rape was pretty much considered something you do not talk of. It was hushed up. Nobody really TALKED about it.

You know how THINKING developed? There is a theory why there are so huge differences between let us say reptilians and people. Reptilians have the reptile brain that really only reacts to certain stimuli and only regulates very basic urges. Mammals have more they have emotions. People have thoughts. Now why is that so? The Theory says to minimize mistakes. The reptilian reacts immediately to certain situations - and dies oftentimes because of it. The mammal has emotions that does provide a buffer to minimize mistakes in handling situations. People even have thoughts to really think something through BEFORE they act.

What is the upside in thinking about rape? Maybe in accessing the phenomenon thoroughly. To really understand it. And to react better to it when it happens in your close proximity. To raise awareness to a higher level. And so on. I know that may sound corny but human beings are blessed with this magnificent tool in their skulls. Is it wrong to apply it to topics considered taboo? Nay. It may be our salvation in the long run.
4/12/2012 5:52 am

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. said:If it's a fabrication, then why are there some similarities between this and the Lara Logan interview? This came out before the 60 Minutes interview.



Something can be true without corresponding to actual facts in the world. Certain fantasies surrounding the assault can be very similar to what really happened. I mean...from that perspective even some details of Fat Kids Video is true. What Part II lacks is a verification or confirmation a simple and clear listing of sources that are really there. Before that happens we can only say that some of the details in Part II are arbitrary true out of sheer guessing or luck.
4/11/2012 6:32 am

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nine said:POML2 a.k.a. CIC,

I don't see why Kat's initial suggestion offended you at all and I don't see why you lashed out at him or made it an issue. He may have singled you out but, seeing as how you are a perfect stranger to him, you shouldn't have taken it so personally. He's observed that most (if not all) of those still participating here in this thread (or lurking about therein), though they may have ulterior (or additional) motives steeped in politics, curiosity, empathy, etc., seem to have an underlying singular focus on obtaining or viewing footage of the attack.



That is not the issue, Nine. The guy behaved like a holier than thou prick without even attempting to evaluate his own position. I call that dishonest from the start. It is very easy to kinda go hard on somebody else. It is very very difficult and very very hard to go hard on yourself. That is why everybody here hates him and ignores him as the thing he wants to be.

You give him far more credit than he deserves really. I mean i give you much credit. Why? See how long and critically of yourself your posting here was. That is what i call honesty and integrity. Just yelling: "You will masturbate to the video!" is not enough. Not by far. It is offensive to even read such a shallow attack. We have had far better in this thread. We are accustomed to much better writing.
4/11/2012 6:13 am

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Real Masked Truth said:I would not say I was humiliated at all for Kat left me alone and stop posting so how is that humiliation? Think you might be a tad jealous for I was the only one standing yesterday after the Kat attack for I and Kat had a disagreement and it was solved so where do you see the humiliation in that?



You misunderstood me. The KAT was humiliated. By the masked soldiers...

A.K.A

YOU! ;)
4/10/2012 9:39 pm

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Cause I Can said:REE you could of Spoke Up Yesterday! Don't waste your time if you read pages prior, or just tell him/her your here to beat off and they will leave! Your Choice!



I know what happened yesterday. One person foolishly went into war with trolls and they kinda whipped the floor with him. Then they send in the masked Soldiers and again he was humiliated severely.
4/10/2012 7:51 pm

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Kat said:Are you here to masturbate to a rape video?



You sound like a malfunctioning Mediaplayer.
4/10/2012 7:09 pm

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. said:"...And yet, for some reason, the U.S. Administration is giving a Billion.5 tax dollars to the very people who enslave and mutilate women??? I understand why this might be kept quiet, but do you know how many paychecks i had taxed to come up with a billion and half dollars?!"

http://marysbeagooddogblog.blogspot.com/2012/04/my-tax-dollars-pay-for-egyptian-war-on.html



A certain sum of this "aid" went directly to Lara Logans attackers i am sure of it. And that is more than shame. It is suicide.
 

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