great come back, you made a great argument for your point.
I am just stating true historical facts, not the lies they taught you in 8th grade history class, I bet they also told you the USA singlehandly won WWI and WWII.
Which is also total bullshit.
This is what you are taught in HS history class, yes. But it is just bullshit and not anywhere near the truth of what happened during the war for southern Independence from the Federal empire of the North.
Yeah, Lincoln freed the slaves in the North , who were already free, he was not president of the CSA, Jefferson Davis was.
So Lincoln freeing the slaves did not mean shit in the south, which was already a separate nation at the time at war with the US.
it is true, the CSA had EVERY right to secede from the North. The CSA was protected under the US constitution. Lincoln was the war criminal that broke the US constitution by invading the south.
Some of the worst riots during the Civil War occurred in NYC when Lincoln freed the slaves.
Why did Lincoln declare war on the CSA? Which was a valid nation.
The south was just defending itself in a invasion.
The CSA wanted to negotiate a peace treaty so the CSA would remain as a nation.
The North invaded the south, we had a right to defend ourselves.
Yeah, that is what they teach you in school, but it is total bullshit.
Everything they ever told you about the Civil War and the CSA is bullshit.
History is rewritten by the victorious forces.
The CSA just wanted to create there own nation, not invade the North.
The CSA was invaded by the Northern armies and Lincoln.
The CSa was just defending their homeland during the war.
Imagine your city being invaded by a foreign army and they killed everyone in the city then burned the city to the ground.
That is what happened during the US Civil War. The Southerners were just defending their homeland from invaders from the North, who were totally blood thrusty and insane and bent on total war and destruction..Sherman was a war criminal who burned entire cites , the Northerner armies were burring all cities they captured, American southern cities to the ground and killed everyone in them.
What would you do in that situation?
In the south today, they are some of the most pro-american, flag waving, Army joining people in the entire USA.
They will fly the Yankee flag with a CSA flag.
And flying a CSA flag is not racist, it is just part of southern heritage, northerns can not understand that.
The spirit of the CSA is very much still alive in the south.
As I already posted, the huge sculpture of Gen Lee and Jefferson Davis in Atlanta which is celebrated daily by fireworks, lasers and Elvis singing Dixie.
The North started the war. The south tried to separate and start a new nation to escape from oppression from DC. Lincoln started an unconstitutional war against the CSA.
The CSA was a valid nation, that had every right to secede from the union, that was invaded by the Federal government, a dictoatorship from DC under Lincoln, and Sherman was like Hitler. He burned entire cites in the south. Atlanta was bombed with artillery for months like Berlin and Dresden.
Everything you were taught in history about the CSA is bullshit.
The South was never reconstructed like Japan and Germany after WWII, we were left to live in ruined , bombed out cities for 100 years, and the south did not even START to recover until the 1960's
And Northerners wonder why the south still hates them to this day.
the South was both economically and politically justified in seceding. At the time of secession, the South owed huge amounts of money to the North, and this debt was getting larger every year. Another point is that a mercantilist and agrarian economy are not compatible. For example, on the issue of Tariffs you have a win-lose situation. Either the North wins and the South loses or vice versa. And in the pre-Civil war days, the flow of the money was north. And perhaps worst of all, the agrarian South, significantly poorer than the North, was paying 82% of federal expenses. If that isn't economic oppression, I don't know what is.
So why didn't the South stop this persecution? For the simple reason that the North had a majority in both houses of Congress.
Things did not get any better for the South when Abraham Lincoln, a Kentuckian who openly declared that he was for limiting slavery was elected president. While not hurting the South directly, this would only increase the congressional advantage the North enjoyed.
So what about compromise? Well, if past experience was to be any judge, compromise did not work. There had been three compromises passed since before the Civil War: The Missouri Compromise, The Compromise of 1850 and The Kansas-Nebraska Act. What did this lead to? The South was a minority in Congress. The territory gained during The Mexican War was to become free, thus increasing the chokehold of the North when these territories would become states. And The Fugitive Slave Act, consolation to the South from the Compromise of 1850 was effectively nullified in the North by 'personal liberty laws', despite the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling that stated that the first Fugitive Slave Act was constitutional.
To recap, the 10th Amendment provides, without doubt, a permit for secession. Furthermore, the South, always on the losing end of the bargain throughout the ages, had good reason to secede, or else be dominated by the North. Thus, it was both legal and justified for the South to secede from the Union.
The troops there were invaders that were stationed in a separate nation from the Federal Empire of the North.
At the time the Southern states were a totally separate nation from the North. The south had EVERY consitutional right to separate from the Empire of the North.
We should have burned it to the ground and captured Lincoln then hung him as a war criminal.
Also this was way after the war started, the CSA did not just invade DC. We were attacked first.
Bullshit!
The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that protects a right to keep and bear arms from infringement by the federal government, including federal enclaves and Washington, D.C.
Why did they put that in the Bill of rights?
So the people could rise up and overthrow an oppressive government if they wanted to.
Which is what the CSA did. The Southern states were INVADED after we seceeded from the opressive Union of the North.
