5/3/2013 8:31 am
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JWP said: I've answered you. You don't like/accept my answers ? Sorry bout that. Have a nice day.
You replied, you gave no answers.
5/3/2013 8:30 am
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JWP said: To be saved, one must [before it is too late] believe the saving truth.
To be eternally lost, one must permanently refuse to believe the truth that saves.
The eternally saved simply will not remain eternally tormented by the permanent decision of the lost to reject the truth that saves.
That you may think the saved should have an eternal pity-party for the lost really don't matter.
So heaven strips you of the love you had in life. Instead, "the lost don't really matter".
Also, your answer doesn't address how the eternally saved might feel about tragedy that occurs on earth to those still living and faithful to God. They feel nothing toward the pain of mortal hardship, apparently.
Sounds like heaven is full of sedated, mind-wiped robots.
5/3/2013 8:23 am
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JWP said: JWP thinks the following from Paul is significant/pertinent and true:
"....... for them that perish;
because they received not the love of the truth,
that they might be saved." 2 Thess 2:10
That wasn't the question at all.
I want to know why people in heaven stop loving their loved ones. You said they had free will. Do the people in heaven look down on tragedy that occurs on earth and feel nothing?
5/3/2013 8:15 am
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JWP said: Well, so keep on thinking God is a monster and the saved are bad and when you are in the lake of fire, if you are able to have any coherent thoughts, you can pat yourself on your burning back and tell yourself you are happy to be in the lake of fire because you were morally superior to the Creator of the universe who sent His Son to get your sins forgiven and give you [and your granny] eternal life and how smart you were to call it a lie and heap scorn on all that urged you [and your granny] to call on Jesus and be saved.
You're still trying to squirm out of answering my question. How could you have not thought of this at some point in your religious life?
5/3/2013 8:13 am
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. said: To go into heaven requires you to become a different dimension, aka spirit.
Those who clinically died and claim to have out of body experiences say that they were full of peace and when they felt their bodies pulling them back in, they say they didn't want to return.
This is probably true since it is a common feeling amongst different people.
But who knows?
Perhaps. I'm not interested in the truth, however. I want to know what JWP thinks.
5/3/2013 8:12 am
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5/3/2013 8:09 am
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. said: It's a reasonable question that you should be able to answer.
I was removing the "spirit" equation from the table completely.
5/3/2013 8:07 am
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JWP said: The eternally saved will know that the lost had opportunity to be saved.
So heaven strips the unconditional love you had on earth from you.
5/3/2013 8:07 am
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. said: Like I told JWP : You aren't qualified to know what you would feel in heaven since you haven't been there.
BTW - JWP doesn't know the difference between Lucifer and Satan.
I'm not trying to be right.
I'm simply demonstrating that JWP is wrong.
5/3/2013 8:06 am
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. said: You believe creatures have a spirit?
5/3/2013 8:04 am
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JWP said: If you maintain your current attitude toward God,
you won't be in heaven to worry about your granny in hell.
You'll be there with her.
You're dodging my question.
5/3/2013 8:02 am
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. said: You just pwned yourself here.
Pets cannot be damned because they do not possess free will. They are guided by instinct.
If a dog kills a cat, that is an action of the moment. A dog does not plan out a killing like a human does. That is pre meditated.
You're as dense as JWP.
Okay, fine, pets can't be damned.
I miss my pets that have died though, wherever their spirit might have ended up. Why do I no longer miss them in heaven? Did I stop loving them?
5/3/2013 8:01 am
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Why does going to heaven turn you into a monster?
If I loved my grandmother on earth and don't want anything bad to happen to her, why do I no longer give a shit that she's suffering eternal pain in hell once I'm hanging with Jesus in heaven?
5/3/2013 7:58 am
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JWP said:
The eternally saved will not "feel bad" regarding the fate of the eternally lost nor about anything else.
Why not, they loved those people on earth and you said they have free thought in heaven. Does going to heaven strip love from you?
5/3/2013 7:50 am
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JWP said: yes, just as we are now.
Final question: Do the people in heaven feel bad for their loved ones and pets who are roasting eternally in hell, for all the sin occurring on Earth like Jesus was and for all the suffering of innocents in the mortal world like they did when they were alive?
5/3/2013 7:45 am
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JWP said: IMeversoHO,
not since Satan and his followers got the boot
[as per Rev 12]
Are people in heaven free to think their own thoughts and have their own feelings?
5/3/2013 7:44 am
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. said: So you're lying about the IP
No, I am not.
5/3/2013 7:42 am
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. said: So you didn't just post this?
That's not Fap & Win. That IP is the dot people call "The Lol Guy". Ohio-boi posted the "Looks like somebody got owned in another thread" and he's the only one stupid enough to think that I'm Yari.
Yes, I posted that.
5/3/2013 7:41 am
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JWP said: Here for another half-hour or so
Are there bad thoughts in heaven?
5/3/2013 7:39 am
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. said: You just said you could a few posts above. Are you a liar?
No I didn't.
You conspiracy tards are really incompetent when it comes to fact-finding and paying attention to detail.
5/3/2013 7:36 am
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5/3/2013 7:34 am
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. said: You can't see IP's kunty.
I cannot see IPs.
5/3/2013 7:34 am
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yari II said: Yeah, you are exactly the kind of paranoid nut I was speaking of.
He's such a nutcase he can't even form a coherent sentence. He just regurgitates random images and links without any context or explanation. He's so far gone that he's unable to articulate anything he reposts in his own words.
5/3/2013 7:29 am
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Guy_Incognito_ said: Ha ha. Hey I E are you still delivering pizzas you fucking AOL tard?
BenBanned said you got hauled into court and wear an ankle bracelet. Say it aint so.
That's not Fap & Win. That IP is the dot people call "The Lol Guy". Ohio-boi posted the "Looks like somebody got owned in another thread" and he's the only one stupid enough to think that I'm Yari.
5/3/2013 7:25 am
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Bullseye.